>For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are they >private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could at least >give some background information.
Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud. The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the end of Feb. -- 此致！Best Regards 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen Email: chenmin...@apache.org 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <tang...@apache.org> 写道： >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the >incubator! > >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are they >private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could at least >give some background information. > >Best >Yun Tang > >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote: >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process. >> >> 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道： >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to get in >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering the >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early version of >> > Impala. >> > >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and planning are >> > in FE), we have made many changes. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new features >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join -> inner join >> > [2], etc. >> > >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC, we found >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been implemented. >> > >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution. >> > >> > >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many common >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of functionality, with >> > significant differences at the code level. >> > >> > >> > >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298 >> > >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > 此致！Best Regards >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen >> > >> > Email: >> > chenmin...@apache.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <morning...@163.com> 写道： >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code, it's >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the maven >> > >>release. >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the java >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before graduation. >> > > >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss it. I >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue. >> > > >> > >-- >> > > >> > >此致！Best Regards >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen >> > > >> > >Email: >> > >chenmin...@apache.org >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the community. >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year. >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to get in >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback. >> > >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code, it's >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the maven >> > >>release. >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the java >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before graduation. >> > >> >> > >>Willem Jiang >> > >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem >> > >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Hi all. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3 years >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018. >> > >>> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about open >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy on >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related to Doris' >> > graduation from the incubator. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project >> > and community since entering the incubator. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. Community >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies, >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21. >> > >>> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members), >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29. >> > >>> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing. >> > >>> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289 subscribers, and >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 2. Project >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have >> > been resolved. >> > >>> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache Foundation >> > requirements[2]. >> > >>> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3]. >> > >>> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4] following >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the incubating[5][6]. I >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the mentors' >> > assistance in checking them out. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on >> > code merge). >> > >>> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to decouple the >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution. >> > >>> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of >> > both projects. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural >> > changes for this. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from >> > Impala. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations. >> > >>> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and thank the >> > Impala community for their help. >> > >>> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the original >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary >> > discussion. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before >> > graduation, please discuss. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/ >> > >>> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris >> > >>> >> > >>> [3] >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris >> > >>> >> > >>> [4] >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List >> > >>> >> > >>> [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z >> > >>> >> > >>> [6] https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9 >> > >>> >> > >>> [7] >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal >> > >>> >> > >>> [8] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt >> > >>> >> > >>> [9] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen >> > >>> >> > >>> Email: >> > >>> chenmin...@apache.org >> > >> >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@doris.apache.org >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@doris.apache.org >> > >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@doris.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@doris.apache.org
