On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 10:06 AM Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Le sam. 16 nov. 2024 à 14:45, Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org> a écrit :
> >
> > Le 15/11/2024 à 17:08, Gary D. Gregory a écrit :
> > > FYI: The revert has now been implemented with the exception of keeping
> the change from Commons Codec Base64 to Java 8 Base68.
> >
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > I don't understand your stubbornness on this subject, Commons Compress
> > had zero dependencies for over 10 years, the general sentiment from the
> > recent discussions seems to point toward avoiding such a dependency
> > bloat, your change was never discussed on the list, it broke Commons
> > Compress (COMPRESS-666 [1], with a highly ironic bug number), and the
> > project was even forked due to this issue.
> >
> > I highly appreciate your dedication to maintain the Apache Commons
> > projects, but you've made an error here. It happens, that's not a big
> > deal, but please listen to the community.
> >
> > Would you accept to resolve this with a vote?
>
> Both sides have something in their favour; you are right in
> the short term, Gary is right in the longer term. [IMO]
> Wouldn't the project benefit from a common policy on how
> to deal with such issues (rather than be divisive, once more)?
>
> [I'd go even further that, by not delving into the crux (no policy)
> of this kind of issues, we create "opportunities" for infighting,
> based on who is more legitimate (so-called "meritocratic") to
> make changes or revert them.  In that respect, both sides
> have again something in their favour.]
>
> I've proposed (and have done so more than twice in the past)
> to examine a way out (i.e. define an official hierarchy among
> the "Commons" components), but you both have ignored it.
>

Hello Gillies,

I've not ignored and even offered my view in these threads: I see that
there are low-level components like IO and LANG, and higher-level
components like VFS, CONFIGURATION, and COMPRESS.

We could draw a picture I suppose.

Gary


> Gilles
>
> >
> > Emmanuel Bourg
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMPRESS-666
>
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