On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 at 19:01, Piotr P. Karwasz
<pi...@mailing.copernik.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 16.11.2024 14:45, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
> > I don't understand your stubbornness on this subject, Commons Compress
> > had zero dependencies for over 10 years, the general sentiment from
> > the recent discussions seems to point toward avoiding such a
> > dependency bloat, your change was never discussed on the list, it
> > broke Commons Compress (COMPRESS-666 [1], with a highly ironic bug
> > number), and the project was even forked due to this issue.
> >
> > I highly appreciate your dedication to maintain the Apache Commons
> > projects, but you've made an error here. It happens, that's not a big
> > deal, but please listen to the community.
> >
> I am a big fan of code reuse, but I am with Emmanuel on this one: you
> add a MiB of dependencies to Commons Compress only to use a couple of
> one-liners. Commons Compress only uses the following Commons Lang methods:
>
> 1. `ArrayFill.fill()` a total of 6 times, each time with a non-null
> argument. What future advantage can this possibly give over Arrays.fill?
>
> 2. `SystemProperties.getOsName()` a total of 2 times. Since
> SecurityManager is deprecated and the "os.name" property is a required
> property on all JVMs, what is the advantage of this method over
> `System.getProperty("os.name")`?
>
> 3. `FieldUtils` is used once in the Harmony code.
>
> All rules are not applicable to all cases. In this case I would say that
> adding 650 KiB of dependencies for a dozen simple method calls, is not
> worth the effort.

Agreed.

It does not make sense to me to add any dependency (regardless of
size) for such minor simplifications.

> On 16.11.2024 17:43, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > Shading is the mother of anti-patterns and a nightmare. IMO, it should only
> > be used as a workaround in the most dire situations.
>
> Shading the entire Commons Lang3 library doesn't make sense, but shading
> `ArrayFill`, `SystemProperties` and `FieldUtils` would be a good
> compromise between code reuse and number of dependencies.
>
> Unfortunately that is impossible, because `SystemProperties` and
> `FieldUtils` depend on half of Commons Lang 3. `ArrayFill` on the other
> hand is a standalone class.
>
> Piotr
>
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