Thank you for doing this!

I try to stay engaged with the releases and would be happy to be kept on
this list. At the same time I agree with Robert, release managers should
take precedence over PMC members if we cannot get the number to 6.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:32 AM Robert Bradshaw via dev <
dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:

> Well, I don't know that PMC should take precedence over release managers
> if it comes to that.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:11 AM Danny McCormick <
> dannymccorm...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I can ask if we can keep 6 seats instead of 5 (and keep Ahmet in that
>> seat). If not, my vote would be to stick with the 5 that I suggested, but
>> if that's not acceptable then I'll drop one of the people (probably myself
>> since I just finished a release and will probably be last up out of the
>> group).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Danny
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:34 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it'd be good if the intersection between this list and the PMC
>>> had cardinality greater than 1. Ahmet might be a good person to keep there.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:25 AM Danny McCormick via dev <
>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, that is part of the proposal. To be clear, our end state would be
>>>> a single group with
>>>>
>>>> - damccorm
>>>> - jrmccluskey
>>>> - kennknowles
>>>> - lostluck
>>>> - abacn
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Danny
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:24 PM Kerry Donny-Clark <kerr...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1, should there also be an update to remove folks who are not active
>>>>> on the project?
>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:40 AM Jack McCluskey via dev <
>>>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 to simplifying the infra side, especially with an aim towards
>>>>>> automating the processes we can. The more we can streamline and simplify
>>>>>> the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:18 AM Danny McCormick via dev <
>>>>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone, in an effort to reduce the burden of running a Beam
>>>>>>> release, a few committers (self included) have volunteered to try to 
>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>> larger role in releases (including both running them and contributing to
>>>>>>> making them better going forward). To aid in that process, I would like 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> request that they all be added to our Beam DockerHub group. Those
>>>>>>> committers are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - damccorm
>>>>>>> - jrmccluskey
>>>>>>> - kennknowles
>>>>>>> - lostluck
>>>>>>> - abacn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the same time, Infra would like us to reduce the number of people
>>>>>>> with DockerHub seats to 5 because they have a limited number of seats 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all of Apache. Currently, we have 2 groups taking up 10 seats: Beam 
>>>>>>> admin
>>>>>>> and Beam maintainers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beam admin has admin privileges over most (though not quite all) of
>>>>>>> our DockerHub repos and includes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - aaltay
>>>>>>> - hannahjiang
>>>>>>> - kileysok
>>>>>>> - pabloem
>>>>>>> - robertwb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beam maintainers has write privileges and some additional admin
>>>>>>> privileges and includes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - aaltay
>>>>>>> - chamikaramj
>>>>>>> - kennknowles
>>>>>>> - kileysok
>>>>>>> - robertwb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To get down to 5 seats, I propose we consolidate to a single group
>>>>>>> with admin privileges and add just the committers I mentioned since they
>>>>>>> will likely be the most actively involved in the release process in the
>>>>>>> short term. A future goal of mine is to automate the DockerHub release
>>>>>>> steps so that we just need 2 dockerhub seats: 1 for the automation and 1
>>>>>>> for an easy manual fallback (probably for the PMC chair).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any concerns (or would like to help with this effort),
>>>>>>> please respond here. Otherwise I will follow up with infra to make this
>>>>>>> change in a day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Danny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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