Thank you for doing this! I try to stay engaged with the releases and would be happy to be kept on this list. At the same time I agree with Robert, release managers should take precedence over PMC members if we cannot get the number to 6.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:32 AM Robert Bradshaw via dev < dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: > Well, I don't know that PMC should take precedence over release managers > if it comes to that. > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:11 AM Danny McCormick < > dannymccorm...@google.com> wrote: > >> I can ask if we can keep 6 seats instead of 5 (and keep Ahmet in that >> seat). If not, my vote would be to stick with the 5 that I suggested, but >> if that's not acceptable then I'll drop one of the people (probably myself >> since I just finished a release and will probably be last up out of the >> group). >> >> Thanks, >> Danny >> >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:34 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think it'd be good if the intersection between this list and the PMC >>> had cardinality greater than 1. Ahmet might be a good person to keep there. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:25 AM Danny McCormick via dev < >>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, that is part of the proposal. To be clear, our end state would be >>>> a single group with >>>> >>>> - damccorm >>>> - jrmccluskey >>>> - kennknowles >>>> - lostluck >>>> - abacn >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Danny >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:24 PM Kerry Donny-Clark <kerr...@google.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1, should there also be an update to remove folks who are not active >>>>> on the project? >>>>> Kerry >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:40 AM Jack McCluskey via dev < >>>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> +1 to simplifying the infra side, especially with an aim towards >>>>>> automating the processes we can. The more we can streamline and simplify >>>>>> the better. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:18 AM Danny McCormick via dev < >>>>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey everyone, in an effort to reduce the burden of running a Beam >>>>>>> release, a few committers (self included) have volunteered to try to >>>>>>> take a >>>>>>> larger role in releases (including both running them and contributing to >>>>>>> making them better going forward). To aid in that process, I would like >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> request that they all be added to our Beam DockerHub group. Those >>>>>>> committers are: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - damccorm >>>>>>> - jrmccluskey >>>>>>> - kennknowles >>>>>>> - lostluck >>>>>>> - abacn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the same time, Infra would like us to reduce the number of people >>>>>>> with DockerHub seats to 5 because they have a limited number of seats >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> all of Apache. Currently, we have 2 groups taking up 10 seats: Beam >>>>>>> admin >>>>>>> and Beam maintainers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beam admin has admin privileges over most (though not quite all) of >>>>>>> our DockerHub repos and includes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - aaltay >>>>>>> - hannahjiang >>>>>>> - kileysok >>>>>>> - pabloem >>>>>>> - robertwb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beam maintainers has write privileges and some additional admin >>>>>>> privileges and includes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - aaltay >>>>>>> - chamikaramj >>>>>>> - kennknowles >>>>>>> - kileysok >>>>>>> - robertwb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To get down to 5 seats, I propose we consolidate to a single group >>>>>>> with admin privileges and add just the committers I mentioned since they >>>>>>> will likely be the most actively involved in the release process in the >>>>>>> short term. A future goal of mine is to automate the DockerHub release >>>>>>> steps so that we just need 2 dockerhub seats: 1 for the automation and 1 >>>>>>> for an easy manual fallback (probably for the PMC chair). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any concerns (or would like to help with this effort), >>>>>>> please respond here. Otherwise I will follow up with infra to make this >>>>>>> change in a day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Danny >>>>>>> >>>>>>