Well, I don't know that PMC should take precedence over release managers if it comes to that.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:11 AM Danny McCormick <dannymccorm...@google.com> wrote: > I can ask if we can keep 6 seats instead of 5 (and keep Ahmet in that > seat). If not, my vote would be to stick with the 5 that I suggested, but > if that's not acceptable then I'll drop one of the people (probably myself > since I just finished a release and will probably be last up out of the > group). > > Thanks, > Danny > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:34 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com> > wrote: > >> I think it'd be good if the intersection between this list and the PMC >> had cardinality greater than 1. Ahmet might be a good person to keep there. >> >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:25 AM Danny McCormick via dev < >> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, that is part of the proposal. To be clear, our end state would be >>> a single group with >>> >>> - damccorm >>> - jrmccluskey >>> - kennknowles >>> - lostluck >>> - abacn >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Danny >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:24 PM Kerry Donny-Clark <kerr...@google.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1, should there also be an update to remove folks who are not active >>>> on the project? >>>> Kerry >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:40 AM Jack McCluskey via dev < >>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 to simplifying the infra side, especially with an aim towards >>>>> automating the processes we can. The more we can streamline and simplify >>>>> the better. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:18 AM Danny McCormick via dev < >>>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey everyone, in an effort to reduce the burden of running a Beam >>>>>> release, a few committers (self included) have volunteered to try to >>>>>> take a >>>>>> larger role in releases (including both running them and contributing to >>>>>> making them better going forward). To aid in that process, I would like >>>>>> to >>>>>> request that they all be added to our Beam DockerHub group. Those >>>>>> committers are: >>>>>> >>>>>> - damccorm >>>>>> - jrmccluskey >>>>>> - kennknowles >>>>>> - lostluck >>>>>> - abacn >>>>>> >>>>>> At the same time, Infra would like us to reduce the number of people >>>>>> with DockerHub seats to 5 because they have a limited number of seats for >>>>>> all of Apache. Currently, we have 2 groups taking up 10 seats: Beam admin >>>>>> and Beam maintainers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beam admin has admin privileges over most (though not quite all) of >>>>>> our DockerHub repos and includes: >>>>>> >>>>>> - aaltay >>>>>> - hannahjiang >>>>>> - kileysok >>>>>> - pabloem >>>>>> - robertwb >>>>>> >>>>>> Beam maintainers has write privileges and some additional admin >>>>>> privileges and includes: >>>>>> >>>>>> - aaltay >>>>>> - chamikaramj >>>>>> - kennknowles >>>>>> - kileysok >>>>>> - robertwb >>>>>> >>>>>> To get down to 5 seats, I propose we consolidate to a single group >>>>>> with admin privileges and add just the committers I mentioned since they >>>>>> will likely be the most actively involved in the release process in the >>>>>> short term. A future goal of mine is to automate the DockerHub release >>>>>> steps so that we just need 2 dockerhub seats: 1 for the automation and 1 >>>>>> for an easy manual fallback (probably for the PMC chair). >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any concerns (or would like to help with this effort), >>>>>> please respond here. Otherwise I will follow up with infra to make this >>>>>> change in a day. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Danny >>>>>> >>>>>
