On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:11:40 +0000, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I'm not going to respond to that, other than to point out that it is > based on the assumption that non-free is important and useful. Someone thought it important enough to sp[end time tracking down the sources, packaging it to follow Debian policy, and follow and fix bug reports. Yes, I think that not only free programs have cornered the market for being useful and important (unless you are a zealot, when this is all moot anyway). >> > If there were evidence of the existence of other significant >> > opinions, sure, we could write them into the ballot. If any >> > appear, we still can. But there hasn't been, and I don't buy the >> > silent majority theory, since it's almost impossible to get >> > Debian developers to shut up at the best of times. >> >> If you are unwilling to discuss issues, how can other nascent >> opinions develop? > I don't believe that it is necessary for people to talk to *me* > before they can form opinions about things. So butt out. We are trying to have a discussion going here, trying to decide on the worth of the proposal. If you have nothing to add, by all means take a back seat. Don't try and shut down discussion. >> I like to keep my promise, is all. I am not implying, though, that >> other people share my opinion, or that they should; nor am I >> implying that people who want to get rid of non-free software are >> breaking their promise. This is a subjective issue, and I am >> stating my take on it. shrug> Clauses 1 and 5 of the social contract are in conflict > anyway. I'm not greatly concerned by moving the line. No. They are only in conflict if you have a black and white world view. And, despite not believing in absolutes, I still do not like moving the line on a whimsy, without even discussiong an amelioration of the imact on the users. manoj -- Old Mother Hubbard lived in a shoe, She had so many children, She didn't know what to do. So she moved to Atlanta. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C