On 9/22/2014 7:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:57:03 +0100 > Lisi Reisz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Monday 22 September 2014 18:03:20 Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:13:10AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>> On 9/22/2014 10:55 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >>>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:31:57AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>>>> Obviously it is important enough to enough users that it >>>>>> continues here. And shutting people up is not going to make >>>>>> the problem go away. It will, however, make users go away. I, >>>>>> for one, am looking at other systems now. And I think it is >>>>>> highly likely this path will force another fork of Debian, as >>>>>> occurred when Ubuntu forked. >>>>> >>>>> Oh Please! There are plenty of Debian derivatives. No doubt >>>>> there will always be derivatives, but your insinuation that >>>>> these derivatives occur because of problems within Debian, is >>>>> incorrect. Please stop spreading FUD! >>>> >>>> And why are there derivatives? Because someone didn't like >>>> something about Debian. To them there was a problem. >>> >>> Have you got any link to back this up. My understanding is that >>> someone creates a derivative because Debian is a good starting >>> point - someone has already done all the hard work -- all the >>> derivatives have to do is a few config changes add some eye candy >>> and voila! :) OK, it may not be that simple but hopefully you get >>> my point. >> >> Mark Shuttleworth created Ubuntu because he wanted to give away a >> free linux system to spread the use of Linux. He used Debian because >> he _did_ like it, not because he didn't. >> >> Lisi > > And I'm sure Jerry likes Debian too. As it existed before systemd. >
You're right. I'm not a sysadmin, but was pretty much forced into it about 11 years ago when a client of mine's sysadmin left for greener pastures (I think he became a cattle farmer :) ). Since I was doing development for them, they asked me if I would also administer their system (which happened to be Debian). After some intensive reading up on administering Linux, I agreed. Since then I've gotten several other servers. I still don't call myself a sysadmin, but I at least know enough to keep a system running and secure. I do like Debian - at least before systemd. But the more I read about it, the less I like it. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
