On 9/22/2014 1:57 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 22 September 2014 18:03:20 Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:13:10AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 9/22/2014 10:55 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:31:57AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>>> Obviously it is important enough to enough users that it continues >>>>> here. And shutting people up is not going to make the problem go away. >>>>> It will, however, make users go away. I, for one, am looking at >>>>> other systems now. And I think it is highly likely this path will >>>>> force another fork of Debian, as occurred when Ubuntu forked. >>>> >>>> Oh Please! There are plenty of Debian derivatives. No doubt there will >>>> always be derivatives, but your insinuation that these derivatives >>>> occur because of problems within Debian, is incorrect. Please stop >>>> spreading FUD! >>> >>> And why are there derivatives? Because someone didn't like something >>> about Debian. To them there was a problem. >> >> Have you got any link to back this up. My understanding is that someone >> creates a derivative because Debian is a good starting point - someone >> has already done all the hard work -- all the derivatives have to do is >> a few config changes add some eye candy and voila! :) OK, it may not be >> that simple but hopefully you get my point. > > Mark Shuttleworth created Ubuntu because he wanted to give away a free linux > system to spread the use of Linux. He used Debian because he _did_ like it, > not because he didn't. > > Lisi > >
And Debian isn't free? There is a lot more to the story than you think. For instance, he wasn't happy with the slow update cycle. That's why Ubuntu has a new version out every six months or so. Some people like the slow upgrade path (I do, for my servers - but then I'm not doing anything fancy with them). But a lot of people prefer the faster upgrade cycle because it more quickly supports newer systems. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/542065fa.7020...@attglobal.net
