-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 07/18/2014 02:26 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: > >> On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: >>> If you can decide this (i an not able this), please fill >>> bugreport about unneeded dependency against this (these) >>> package(s). >> >> I think (not having done the research to verify this) that the idea >> is that some - many? - packages need PAM, and depend (perhaps >> indirectly) on an appropriate package for that, but that package >> now depends (perhaps indirectly) on libpam-systemd, which depends >> on 'systemd-sysv | systemd-shim', which results in systemd-sysv >> getting installed without notice, even though the original package >> didn't need systemd in the first place. > > Currently upgrading systemd from 204 to recent version in unstable > 208 causes sysvinit-core to be removed. See: > > Needs to be updated for the single cgroup manager changes in systemd > v205 > https://bugs.debian.org/752939 According to comments on which, an updated systemd-shim that does provide the needed functionality to let people (at least manually) avoid this is awaiting the arrival of the new 'cgmanager' package, which is in the NEW queue. See: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754910 Looks like there was a maintainership dispute briefly, but it's been resolved now, and (barring delays on the ftpmaster side) cgmanager may get in fairly soon - which would let the updated systemd-shim get in, and restore the ability to use libpam-systemd without running systemd as init. Still not entirely ideal, but far better from the perspective of those who wish to avoid systemd than the way things have sometimes looked to have been trending. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTyXJRAAoJEASpNY00KDJrS+8QAJoTu3+a2ofOIkS+DQxCUetn LIgJVsT+WPEDxrxW4pEgkcS7ZXmatZX86nZ0ajq40x3WUeJgMKUR0mlFv35rr6AK JnR2fpU1Mer0pGFCLX0kqayxAemTwK4/duIhWTXE3T8YtbBdsivAwNU3hsi5EqDm RWOBBKxgHJ+d02NgQo9JTpxkzRHkCJ3auAr3zfLTinyj6qOS8KDtXCwUXK68XnZu dJnl/TLKask8BJAkjrfK1sRQAyggjnJS9awHMdj8EjaPpL8aGYE/AgHxoXZemGTh Oh/vGam6lHgsty+sdiM8sn2SKAbJGdlD9aR6i8pT3qYs0d9sut2H1uztG7xEwKEu 4vEzPVwhwvnUi0GEfKpAGgDR0zenym2XbRwlkb2ktL5yYmf68I4c04iSXj4ucUu1 MEOOA++aPvO5PN77ofWCK6wjv7DHzwCsMoX9+Qj9U218dgYqq78bH9HC2Bj2K1zT Nn7UiZK6DKUlXkTeDoylaN4exosZEV+zHxuNG08gUuO9DnHilA1Ntpehl7uJr38q jOZxSOSFvTdI5vtZri8Cut7FvrywXR6ieaVQOp39MzmR5IdUOyWrD0X5W4TfJrvu Ka4ab/+A8c8t+0rZmllKeeJiUs2bgT3msDXBCnIwXQbeUCSALtD0+PooeNJdSMar OOeY2iX/y0wOj0NkbxTq =FbYs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c97252.9080...@fastmail.fm
