-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 07/19/2014 07:28 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> It seems to me like you're trolling, but I'll assume good faith and > reply anyway. > > On Vi, 18 iul 14, 18:22:49, Steve Litt wrote: >> And although his email doesn't talk about user space *applications* >> getting entangled the init system, I have a feeling he wasn't >> envisioning rank and file applications requiring parts of the init >> system. > > And your point is? I suspect it may be the principle which I've been turning over in my mind lately, and which I think would be expressed as: "No functionality which anything not part of the init system might legitimately want to depend on should be implemented (primarily) as part of the init system." Or, more concisely but less clearly, "Software not part of an init system should be init-system-agnostic." (With obvious exceptions for e.g. tools designed to manipulate the config files or init scripts for a particular init system.) E.g., the functionality provided by systemd-logind is something that things outside of the init system might (and do) legitimately want to depend on, so it should not be implemented as part of the init system. If systemd-logind is not part of the systemd init system, all functionality which it depends on should be implemented outside of the init system. Conversely, if systemd-logind is part of the systemd init system, the functionality which outside programs want to depend on should not be implemented as part of it. I suspect, with little evidence except the design choices that have already been made, that the systemd maintainers/developers would actively reject this principle. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTyl3UAAoJEASpNY00KDJr9rAP/A/qmoWocGbHKY0lhEUSVtjB eiAcfFbJwqsH/CqL6m4KaITiNzyz7UJwOk+nvMjWPOOilcL08WEm+tScnc2Yczdl 9QkPRuj8iIU/Ml1uiEh65lBlw2ng19edY5n098N4aGq+OqYmuUln/6psq676fqOp wt2z6kdDI7EqLwjiCnwbOQkGeSWY6ZPmnG/cSEbhXzVBgo5MPcPA62uxOPtAFZ6d lY3kcmRVZXanfU+sB2uQ3e9zTRaotFLkUU86CDKUbOQnAu/ejiG4PoNu67cYTvno LweQonjmKvK6Fqw0v9VncnfHbsW+iuRDal5qeGqihUHXkrDbKijiZm3f7O5JNxoE 5bwXMZ2vDnEjqJEjVxvmdFxMIJTZDpCUSkWEZd6YzJIoBD6peeHUGfM4YP6GsUKC YKOkv/jbktY1BcE/Ph0AQnKUVDMYANlJ8H4EE1y0/wVQacWNv6SPHYfN5derHGHJ 2SfsddsOAgPW+hFlF0GH3uUzIog+YB5aeMlzAiyuVA8cUeeZ9eM420ZpSYUKq++b gSnedsuAS1FCl4eQzzXUEBQU0FKRZW+ntyApBAGjMT/PK+HBlB5HTzgUzjXLA9UU nfVSKoEcvC3SGTSOWvsBrtDSsxJKHaW04DXmZHKJphUuGwZnPTVbHGcSKFojYWxb qG0+H71f/LERzhgGQi5D =jJJW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ca5dd4.70...@fastmail.fm
