-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote:
> Ahoj, > > Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David <er...@rail.eu.org> > napísal: > >> That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends >> direectly or indirectly on systemd, often without real need... > > If you can decide this (i an not able this), please fill bugreport > about unneeded dependency against this (these) package(s). I think (not having done the research to verify this) that the idea is that some - many? - packages need PAM, and depend (perhaps indirectly) on an appropriate package for that, but that package now depends (perhaps indirectly) on libpam-systemd, which depends on 'systemd-sysv | systemd-shim', which results in systemd-sysv getting installed without notice, even though the original package didn't need systemd in the first place. The only ways I can see to break this dependency would be to either pull the needed functionality out of systemd (which apparently is considered hard enough to not be worth doing, at least by the systemd upstream) or reverse the order of that '|' dependency, which I believe has been rejected on the not unreasonable grounds that it would result in not installing systemd even for people who *don't* care about having it. (As well as on the grounds that systemd-shim won't continue to provide the needed functionality for newer systemd versions, unless people update it in ways that haven't happened yet.) Given the lack of good ways to break the dependency chain, and the likelihood that any reports of the dependency chain as a problem would be seen as (possibly insincere) troublemaking, filing its existence as a bug report doesn't seem worth the likely (lack of) result. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTyVcYAAoJEASpNY00KDJrZHAP/jo8turlbyX6rCXb4uw4dgP1 NdMh5R6W+9IHPdtR0Mx8mccjXUz8a1v2cuyu7UN3GGPZmHbGcO3HeQP15SgRrs4R AwGZpZ/OMJVnNPkqPe39or7MnsWtIzLwq0YyUQQ0kEQqZmYajnkDefxZ/FSdzwaq 6awDKiiQCBTcEqL58cytjbmROGOa0Bc9Jk2sdu3wHagemRWz3I0+UTCcL2drFA9n O3harZGKuBffPWtIKnNXWDHL2rSbreY3/oaVrP2cfJ46v3s5ChVV97g+HdtQd5Op qN3EP8PTCH1KIjJQNaMR6wm2ozRhwZAuxNMJmW0lC0t5FgGZdZfwsLrIryW4ekFJ QFM64RQaYuRmsG5kMY5ZTwv/rtzdJkolICl9rgZWYz/zNkLiutaiiyM9KYb3YBR9 DZBLsxZjyLDGT+OI/0gLIjCyiPGI76rRHnWHlILUZf0ztalM5m0O5Zrj/lLhT/7H fk8rKePH/Ot2de5imFZALudjejotdvV3q84Sn+EbnQQtURmHhhVch8jTim2ywxjR CwzFvMltkLoIL82Tv11CLDa+o9++h87E9Nhd2o8XT4vFB+kYjQldMr/7jMM8oekY jVc6UoTLinlvBLadvjGjN5rFIVKRjbysyJE2kWw9UE7EHf2bLHHijFJ1TRDjn9ID w1hjBD3XppmOjUDm7JVY =quU3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c95719.5020...@fastmail.fm
