On 02/18/2014 10:03 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote: > Thanks. Unlike tools like xz, just installing systemd does have > side-effects on the system. These are usually considered bugs and > quickly ironed out, but I believe some are still present in the wheezy > package and I am thus reluctant to install wheezy's systemd on a > production system. This problem will solve itself over time.
Yeah, no one said that. systemd for Wheezy is out of the question, I don't understand why you even need to bring that up. Even upstream clearly says you shouldn't be using such an old version. > The other argument I saw in the discussion was "journalctl is just a > tool like xz, go and install it". It's not. There is xz-utils on > kfreebsd-amd64, but there is no systemd there (sorry for reiterating > this one). So? In what situation is it impossible for you to get your hands on a Linux live medium? Are you trying to construct a situation where you are stranded on a lonely island with your Linux installation broken and all you have is a live medium with Debian/kFreeBSD? The package zfsutils isn't available on Linux either [1], so I guess you won't be able to repair your corrupted ZFS filesystem with a Linux live medium in such a situation. I don't understand such arguments, those are strawman arguments in my opinion. Adrian > [1] https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/zfsutils -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5303302f.2070...@physik.fu-berlin.de