On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:53:39PM +0400, Oleg wrote: > scp /var/log/syslog ... > > Why do i need an unneeded layer for this - journalctl?
Heh. Maybe we can turn this into a useful question: Assume that I have a broken system (maybe the disk is partially broken or it got owned and I don't want to rely on its toolbox anymore). Now for some reason, I can still access /var/log/journal. Maybe I even have an offline copy of the FSS[1] keys? So yeah, what I'll be doing is copying off /var/log/journal from that system before more harm happens. Unfortunately my recovery system runs sysvinit (not an unlikely scenario these days). There is no journalctl on that system. So what do I do now? For the record: If the recovery system does run systemd, you go journalctl -D /path/to/your/journal/copy. So for the time being (i.e. until all of my systems and recovery systems are converted to systemd), I do see a slight[2] disadvantage about using the journal here. It may take even longer until all initramfs will use systemd (and I do want to read logs from the initramfs if all I can mount is the /var/log). Helmut [1] journalctl --setup-keys [2] I am not trying to capture a full comparison here, but highlighting a very specific aspect. If your response includes "but the journal is so much better", then you are missing my point. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140216081746.ga5...@alf.mars