Maybe we could just do a vote? Erik
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 22:43 +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote: >> > The only reason I would favor one over the other >> > is if it turned out that in "practical play" the games ended up >> closer. >> > For instance if black won a 53% at 6.5 komi and white wins 51% at >> 7.5 >> > komi, I would favor 7.5 because it kept the scores close. >> >> Last week I was told that, with 7.5 komi against itself, Mogo wins >> over 60% as White. Also against my own program I have much better >> chances when playing White. > > I really don't trust this after doing the Leela experiments. > > Also, I studied this a while back with CGOS data and saw a very tiny > advantage for white, not much. This was even when I filtered the weaker > opponents out. I suppose I could do this again but it doesn't seem to > prove anything. > >> As programs become stronger the advantage for one side with fractional >> komi will inevitably become totally unbalanced. At some point we will >> approach 100% and then I rather have that go to the first player. The >> only fair alternative is to use integer komi. > > I think we have a long time for that to happen. When that day comes, > 9x9 will be like checkers is now, you have to play 10 or 20 draws just > to get 1 or 2 wins. > > - Don > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
