Hi Hideki,

No need to stop any of the weaker games since 99% of the compute time is
consumed by the strongest half. 

Also, only the new mogo's will be scheduled to play until they catch up
- however their opponent will almost always be the stronger players.  
The probability of one of them playing against an opponent in the lower
half is low.   

- Don
 

Hideki Kato wrote:
> Heikki,
>
> The numbers of games are about 200 and their ratings' standard 
> deviations (right of Elo) are 70 to 100, right now.  To get 95% of 
> reliability, you have to double them.  Don't you think it's too early 
> to conclude any?
>
> -Hideki
>
> Heikki Levanto: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Everyone is looking at the top end of the scalability study
>>   http://cgos.boardspace.net/study/
>>
>> But what happens in the low end? Both programs show linear progress to begin
>> with, then a corner, and more (almost?) linear development.
>>
>> Fatman's curve has a clear break at 3 doublings, when it suddenly starts to
>> improve much slower than before. This goes on until 12 doublings, after which
>> we get the mysterious decline.
>>
>> Mogo's curve is pretty well linear to 4 doublings, after that there is more
>> variation (I suppose random), but the overall scope is clearly not what it
>> was below 4.
>>
>>
>> It is possible that both programs have a subtle bug that starts to disturb
>> results around this point, but I find it quite unlikely.
>>
>> The breaks happe at 1350 - 1550 ELO points. Isn't that about the level where
>> plain MC stops improving with more playouts?  Would be fun to see if we could
>> isolate the playout parts of those programs, and let them play pure MC. My
>> guess is that they would end up around this level.
>>
>>
>> Could it be that there are other limiting factors higher up? Perhaps Fatman
>> is hitting the next one around 12 doublings, and Mogo will follow at 14 or
>> 15... We will see that in a few days, when the new Mogos join the study and
>> start producing results.
>>
>>   - Heikki
>>     
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