Jason House wrote: > gtp has specific support for handicap games. If we do handicap, I'd > prefer to see the server use those specialized commands. > Of course that's better, but I'm talking about a quick and dirty solution. I may never implement handicap games since it's tricky with ELO ratings.
We talked about this at one time and it was a very complicated issue. Do we award compensation for handicap stones, etc. Also there is an issue of how to figure this into the ELO rating formula. I don't want to get into another round of discussing this right now. I might implement this in a later server version but probably not any time soon. - Don > On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 17:21 -0400, Don Dailey wrote: > >> What if one program agreed to moving at a1 on the first move? Would >> this simulate a handicap pretty well? >> >> You could get up to 4 (or is it 5) by agreeing to move to various corner >> intersections. >> >> Is it better to pass than move A1 on the first move? >> >> I suggest it might be interesting if the really strong programs post >> versions that do this. >> >> - Don >> >> >> >> >> >> Don Dailey wrote: >> >>> David Fotland wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It's hard to believe crazy stone is 7 stones stronger than mfgo. I'd >>>> like to see some handicap games to show this. 100 ELO might have some >>>> relation 1 handicap stone at low ratings, but at higher strengths, 1 >>>> stone handicap must be a smaller ELO difference. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> This handicap can be simulated of course. It's wouldn't be exactly the >>> same as a real handicap game, but the program giving the handicap could >>> agree to pass on the first N moves. However, with CGOS scoring the >>> weaker program could immediately pass and win the game! Some of my >>> programs would just automatically pass if it won the game on score. >>> >>> - Don >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> computer-go mailing list >>> computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
