> On Jan 10, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Alex Zavatone <z...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Rick Mann wrote:
> 
>> In complex apps (e.g. CAD apps, IDEs) a given document has many auxiliary 
>> windows. The trend in UI at Apple has been to consolidate these into panes 
>> in a single window. I've always preferred separate windows (e.g. separate 
>> toolbar window).
> 
> Same here. I strongly prefer separate windows that I have control over.

Me, too. However, I see the handwriting on the wall and I am in the process of 
revising my primary product to follow the new paradigm as much as possible -- 
and to convert my beloved drawers to panes in the process.

However, I have a number of separate, single-purpose windows that are used only 
rarely, and I can't figure out a good way to incorporate them into the main 
window without turning my product into an ugly, too-complex, single-window 
monstrosity like Xcode.

The only alternative to separate utility windows that I see on the current 
landscape is popovers, but it seems like popovers shouldn't be allowed to get 
too large or too numerous. Popovers do have one big advantage, from my point of 
view -- you can compromise with Apple's new paradigm by allowing them to be 
detached into separate windows when you want to have several of them open at 
once for interaction.

I there any alternative better than popovers for this?

-- 

Bill Cheeseman - wjcheese...@comcast.net

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