I don’t like check valves in a bilge pump system because they are prone to 
blockage and leakage.  Just put a high point in the discharge line (before the 
point of overboard discharge such that minimal water back flows when the bilge 
pump shuts off.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently in Baltimore for the summer)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jul 25, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Bruce Pope via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> After reading your post I decided to forgo check valves on both primary and 
> secondary bilge pumps and had the same experience with recycling bilge water. 
>   Installed Whale Gusher check valves this spring and they both leak.   It 
> takes about 30 minutes for leakage to top the electronic float and cycle up 
> pump.
> Anyone have recommendations for alternatives?
> Not a lot of reviews of check valves or non return valves.
> 
> Bruce
> S/V Gyrfalcon
> C&C 29-2
> Kootenay Lake, BC
> 
> 
> From: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:26 AM
> To: cnc-list
> Subject: Re: Stus-List I am so done with bilge pumps...
>  
> I’ve had mixed experience with Rule pumps in three years on Grenadine.  She 
> came with an old Rule-Mate 1100 that still works as intended.  Before the 
> 2017 season I added a second Rule-Mate 1100 under the mast step, and it came 
> from the store with an inoperative internal water sensor, so automatic mode 
> was useless, and reversed internal wiring or impeller so that it just churned 
> the bilge water instead of pumping it out the discharge hose.  And yes, I’m 
> certain I wired it correctly - this past offseason I unstepped the mast and 
> put in a replacement new Rule Mate 1100 which works as intended on the exact 
> same wiring - which I’d completely replaced before the 2017 season with 
> right-sized / oversized wire.  There are a lot of negative reviews of these 
> Rule-Mate pumps on westmarine.com (one of them mine, the most-liked negative 
> review there). 
> 
> On a related topic, when I overhauled the bilge plumbing before the 2017 
> season, I chose not to install check valves in the discharge hoses because I 
> was pretty influenced by http://www.yachtsurvey.com/bilge_pumps.htm.  I wrote 
> a long post to the list about my thought process - 
> http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2017-March/091421.html.  
> Turns out I drained my batteries twice last season from a cycling bilge pump, 
> because I didn’t manually pump the bilge often enough.  And that sucked - I 
> had to pull the batteries out, bring them home, put them on a charger, take 
> them back and put them in, etc.  Fortunately I didn’t kill the battery life 
> with those mistakes - they’ve been working fine.  Pain is a great teacher, so 
> this past offseason I relaxed my principles and installed Whale Gusher check 
> valves in the discharge hoses.
> 
> Now I’m worried that the little rubber joker valves inside those check valves 
> will fail and lead to pump cycling again.  The big rubber joker valve in my 
> Jabsco head only lasts about a year, I’ve found, after which it leaks and 
> allows backflow.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
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