Bill Bina is quite correct about doing what the regulations expect of you. That 
applies to the point where you become "in extremis".  That point must be 
determined by the Master of the stand on vessel at the time and is always 
subject to review and judgement by the courts in cases where collisions result. 
 Once "in extremis" it is the Master's obligation to take all possible actions 
to avoid collision.  Or, as I put it earlier, to "get the hell out of the way". 
A prudent Captain has been on the VHF radio and sounding the ship's horn long 
before "in extremis" is declared in an effort to get the give way vessel to 
meet her obligation of keeping clear.  
I, for one, am all in favor of declaring "in extremis" sooner than later and 
giving yourself a better chance of avoiding collision.  I have used the VHF 
radio to declare "in extremis" while announcing my rudder is full port or 
starboard. At the same the ship's horn is sounding the 5 blast danger signal 
danger signal followed shortly after by the appropriate signal for my turn 
direction. Sound signals and VHF broadcasts are continuous until the danger has 
passed.  I have done this many times from the bridge of my trawler, as Officer 
of the Deck and as Commanding Officer of United States Navy Destroyers.  I have 
never had a collision at sea and my judgement has never been called into 
question, post incident.  
Even with early action, I have had closer calls with vessels failing in their 
keep clear obligations than I might have wished. I have always reported such 
incidents to appropriate authorities whether in inland waters or on the high 
seas.  Masters failing to comply with the Colleges deserve to be reported and 
called to task for their transgressions.  Unfortunately, theyseldom are.
Hank Evans  CDR. USN  (Ret.)M/V Queen Ann's Revenge 



On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, 2:58:44 PM CDT, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

 
Failure to really know and UNDERSTAND the colregs is why boats hit boats. 
Congratulations on your license, but you may still have some larnin' to do, 
son. Colregs depend on everyone knowing and doing what is expected, but allows 
for those who don't. A stand on vessel that gives way is screwing up the 
system. Being unpredictable is not what a licensed captain ever wants to be. 
Many on this list have had licenses at levels from 6-pack up to 100 ton Masters 
for years and decades. :-) 
 
 
Bill Bina
 
 
 On 7/18/2017 3:45 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
  
 
This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with license 
sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with gear down and 
dragging a net. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 
 On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 
  
  

See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" except 
for one specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel was in the 
wrong in this case as described. :-)
 
 
Bill Bina
 
 
 On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
  
 
Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
right away over sailing vessel.  Yeah, just got the 6 pack license.  
 Sent from my iPhone 
 On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 
  
  
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 We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down LIS 
doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September weekday so empty 
waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from the right direction.  
  Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if I did 
not alter course and risk a roundup in the process  
  Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.   
  Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us "yachties"  
 
  Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously incompetent.  
 
  1981 40-2.   
  
  
 
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