I was think of going from top down with feeding the new line.    Seems like the 
amstel blue may make that easier.  Thoughts on that?


Donald








> On Jun 12, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Donald:
> 
> It seems to me the tough part in any case is how you connect the old cable to 
> the new.
> 
> When you're hauled out, you can tape them together. When you're underwater? I 
> dunno. A thin messenger line tied to the old cable and the new one? If the 
> connector is bulky, it may get hung up while going through a sheave.
> 
> Maybe someone on the list has a better idea. I've seen a ton of clever 
> solutions pop up here over the years.
> 
> 
> Jack Brennan
> Former C&C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Donald Sebastian via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:18 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Donald Sebastian
> Subject: Re: Stus-List centerboard cable broken
> 
> Jack,
> 
> Thanks for the information.  I like that as an option.
> 
> The complication in all of this is the closest travel lift is a 4-5 day one 
> way motoring trip up the Ohio to Cincinnati.    My closest local option to 
> lift would require a de-masting with a crane I hire in myself as their lift 
> cannot accommodate masts taller than 30 ft or so.  With the haul out, crane 
> rental, lift rental, 2nd crane rental, and relaunch I would have several 
> thousand just in those services.    I think the diver may be cheaper.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Donald
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> One alternative to consider is replacing the cable with high-tech line such 
>> as Amsteel Blue. This is an increasingly common strategy for avoiding steel 
>> cables failing without notice.
>> 
>> Amsteel Blue is stronger than the same size steel cable, impervious to salt 
>> water and resistant to abrasion. UV is its only weak point, which is not an 
>> issue with a centerboard cable.
>> 
>> On my current sailboat, I just replaced an Amsteel Blue line that had served 
>> as a centerboard cable for eight years. The rigger who did the (simple) job 
>> for me said it could have lasted eight more years. No wear or deterioration 
>> at all.
>> 
>> The rigger's approach was to put a Brummel splice in the centerboard end, 
>> then loop the line through it to connect to the board. Then connect the new 
>> cable to the old one and crank it up.
>> 
>> If you're near a yard with a Travel Lift, you should be able to get a 
>> two-hour short haul for about $200. That would be plenty of time to do the 
>> job. I think the rigger charged me $75 in labor plus $20-something for the 
>> Amsteel Blue.
>> 
>> Jack Brennan
>> Former C&C 25
>> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Donald Sebastian via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:01 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Donald Sebastian
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List centerboard cable broken
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> Thank you very much for the information.    I’ll contact them today.    I’m 
>> thinking its just the fitting at the actual keel as I can’t pull the actual 
>> line up so I think the loop is still attach, or the loop is no longer a loop 
>> but the swagging is still attached and not able to pul through the hole.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> Donald
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 8:35 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a 33-II with a centreboard whose pendant broke a couple of years 
>>> ago. I had Rob From South Shore yachts make and install the new one. They 
>>> had an eye fitting roll swagged on the lower end, which the fed down and 
>>> attached with a pin to the board, then hand swagged 2 fittings to make the 
>>> eye on the deck end.
>>> 
>>> When hauled the board swung just far enough forward to allow you to reach 
>>> up and remove and replace the pin. Have a new pin ready! Ours was just 
>>> about worse thru.
>>> 
>>> Contact for Rob MacLachlan at South Shore Yachts 
>>> sa...@southshoreyachts.com, or try calling (works better) tel:905-468-4340
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Donald 
>>> Sebastian via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:54 AM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: Donald Sebastian <donaldsebast...@me.com>
>>> Subject: Stus-List centerboard cable broken
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I have a C&C 33 with a drop keel.  Today as I was going to drop the keel, 
>>> from its normal 4 1/2 ft to 7 ft, the line was slack.  After diving 
>>> underneath, the keel is down but it is hard to tell what exactly is going 
>>> on.    My assumption is 2 things:  Either the cable broke, or the pin that 
>>> the cable attaches to has broken.
>>> 
>>> I have a few questions:
>>> 
>>> 1.  Can this be repaired while in the water with a diver?  Not a great 
>>> option to pull locally without demasting.
>>> 2.  If I can’t repair immediately, would I cause damage to the keel by 
>>> sailing as is for a bit?   I didn’t know if there was a stop keeping the 
>>> keel from droppiing too far?
>>> 3.   If it is the attachment where the cable connects to the centerboard, 
>>> does any one have specs on that connection or pictures?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Donald
>>> 
>>> Louisville, KY
>>> 
>>> 
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