Both these stories would seem to suggest bilge hose discharge ports low on the 
boats' transoms - is that true? If so that would seem a slightly risky location 
for discharge ports, as the stories bear out. In that situation is it possible 
to change the location of the discharge port, as in cut a new hole for a 
through-hull high up on the boat's quarter, and patch the old hole on the 
boat's transom? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "robert via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "robert" <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> 
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:45:20 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Siphoning bilge pump hose? 

A fellow club member with a C&C 41 was doing a trip from Halifax, N.S. to St. 
John's, Newfoundland.....at 2 a.m. an off-watch crew member heard the electric 
bilge pump running and wouldn't stop....the water kept coming into the bilge 
and they didn't know where it was coming from.....all hands are now awake 
searching every possible thru hull, valve, etc looking for the source of the 
water....no luck and they are getting very nervous.....everyone puts on a PFD 
and the life raft is untied just in case. 

There is a following sea....finally one of the crew realizes the water is 
coming in from the hose of the manual pump.....with the following sea, the 
water started siphoning into the boat through the manual bilge pump hose. They 
cut the hose where it runs aft in the lazaret and put a wooden plug is the back 
end. No more manual bilge pump for the rest of the voyage but it didn't bother 
them.....they were now safe.....that was a bit of excitement in the middle of 
the night. 

I had a similar setup for the manual bilge pump hose on my 32, however, after I 
heard their story, now there is a high loop and a check vale. And I won't be 
doing any crossings from Halifax to St. John's. 


Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 



On 2017-06-01 10:26 AM, Joe Boyle via CnC-List wrote: 



We had a nasty scare last night after our Wednesday night race. We were 
motoring back to the dock - about a half hour trip and I climbed down the 
companionway into about 2 inches of bay water. The bilge was full and 
overflowing as we motored along. Inspection revealed no leaks that i could see 
from the engine compartment - shaft log, water pump, muffler and exhaust and 
thru hulls were all fine. I jump up to the head and check all 3 thru hulls 
there - all dry. 

We finally get the auto bilge pump working and pumped all the water out - and 
no more leak. I believe that the float switch may have been stuck. 

So here's my theory - under power the 30 MK1 tends to squat and the bilge 
outlet is below the water on the stern. We had had rain the week before and I 
had neglected to turn on the manual switch to get out the last of any water in 
the bilge - the float switch always leaves a few cupfuls in the bilge. I am 
thinking that while under way with the outlet submerged, the bilge pump cycled 
on. Then - as usual - the remaining water in the hose flowed back into the 
bilge. But this time with the outlet underwater, it started water siphoning 
into the boat. 

After cleaning it all up I checked it in the morning - and it was dry as usual. 
The bilge hose has a high loop in it but no air break or check valve. 

I am thinking a check valve or an air break would keep this from happening 
again - any opinions would be welcome. 

Oh - and I think I will fix the manual bilge pump that I have been putting off 
for a while! 

thanks, 

Joe 


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