Patrick — I wonder if the “orangey” stuff you saw is the same stuff they used 
between the headliner and the cabin top; some sort of liquid adhesive.  Sounds 
a lot like what I’ve found in the headliner of my boat.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Progress! Just to follow up in case anyone's interested or for future 
> reference, I managed to get one U-Bolt out. I wrote a blog post on the 
> methods and results: 
> https://svviolethour.com/2017/01/29/rerig-part-4-stuck-navtec-u-bolt-chainplates/
>  
> <https://svviolethour.com/2017/01/29/rerig-part-4-stuck-navtec-u-bolt-chainplates/>
> 
> tldr: Lots of heat plus a 24" pry bar / breaker bar. 
> 
> I found an Ericson owner who used a similar method - shroud tension plus 
> heat. He thinks shroud tension was around 1000 lbs, but he had 3/8" Navtec 
> u-bolts. Using a lever arm calculator, I calculated the upward force it took 
> on my 1/2" bolts was around 2000 lbs. 
> 
> Interesting aspects once I got it out: lots of aluminum corrosion dust from 
> the backing block, but the SS was spotless. Bedded in butyl, not silicone. 
> And the deck core here was not wood! Some kind of hard composite I don't 
> recognize - light orange / peachy in color. Very good news because the core 
> is pristine.
> 
> I doubt it's an epoxy coring from a prior owner (since A) it's doesn't look 
> like epoxy, and B) the bolts looked like they'd never been pulled). Around 
> each U-Bolt the deck has square area about 8"x8" where it's clear something 
> different was inserted between the fiberglass. I thought it was marine ply, 
> but I guess they could've used some kind of board of composite or plastic. 
> 
> The one question I haven't figured out yet is, if the U-bolts were not 
> leaking (I've never observed water from them, even in heavy rains), how did 
> the aluminum corrosion happen? I suspect small moisture over time (interior 
> cabin moisture?  Or small amounts getting in from deck while under sail when 
> the u-bolts are under flexion / tension?) contributed to it. Just need a 
> small amount of moisture to get a galvanic medium on the less noble aluminum 
> next to the SS. The material loss is insignificant however. 
> 
> -Patrick
> 1984 C&C LF38

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