You pretty much hit it on the head - it's more about cargo capacity than anything else. You just can't imagine how much STUFF you take with you - and that's before you start loading cases of wine, cases of soda, cases of water, etc, etc, etc. Don't get hung up on tankage or battery capacity - spend your time figuring out how to efficiently put stuff back into them.
Funny comment re the Sabre - we sold one to move to the 121. One of the few boats I've owned and don't miss. Yes, the woodwork was in a different world than the Tartan C&C. The 121 is a good boat, possibly a great boat. Who knows, after sailing her for a few more years maybe I will take her on an extended cruise but it's really not what that girl was built to do. She would be a dream zipping around the BVI. Sailing to Bermuda in November - not so much. John Sent from my iPad > On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com> wrote: > > John, > > Thanks for the note and I really appreciate any and all suggestions. As a > matter of fact, I was re-visiting the C&C 121 listings just last night to > make sure that I wasn’t heading off at high speed on the wrong tack. And I am > in complete agreement with your take on its sailing and cruising envelope. If > I were going to spend all my time on the Chesapeake Bay with a couple of > short off-shore dashes I’d include it at the top my list. But I’m looking for > extended cruising with a modicum of carrying capacity. Another issue is > sea-kindliness upwind in heavy’ish weather. > > I crewed on my buddy's 115 that he bought in Long Island a couple of years > ago and delivered back to Annapolis. I loved the boat. We made the absolute > fastest not-stop run from Kings Point, NY to Annapolis that I have ever done. > I don’t remember the numbers but is was crazy fast. Fortunately almost all of > it was beam-reaching and off-wind work. But my same friend decided to take it > to Block Island for RC duty the year after. That proved to be brutal. Upwind > in heavy weather. I’m afraid that it is now for sale and he is looking at big > Sabres, Gran Soleils and the like. And my buddy has been racing off-shore > around the world for 35+ years and is incredibly tough so it’s a decision > that he didn’t make lightly. > > Also, everyone on the boat was commenting on the quality of glass work, fit > and finish compared to J Boat offerings > > So, yes, if it were spending all or most of our time in the Bay, I would put > it on the list. > > Best, > Dave > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > > >> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:49 PM, j...@svpaws.net wrote: >> >> For what it's worth, when we bought our 121 this year, it came down to a >> newer C&C vs. several J's. For how we sail now - weekends, short cruises, >> etc the C&C was the right choice. I'm not sure if it would be my choice for >> extended cruising (which I have done). If you know and like the J, I >> suspect your decision is already made. You could do far worse. >> >> John >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> I want to reply to Colin and to Ken Heaton for good suggestions and a very >>> nice offer. >>> >>> As far as looking at the later (not Jackett designed and built models) >>> C&C’s, those are very attractive suggestions but I think that both my wife >>> and I are headed in a different direction. >>> >>> We've discovered over the years that with just the two of us, dragging a >>> big 140% jib across the deck isn’t our idea of pleasant anymore. And the >>> way that we sail is pretty much me soloing with my wife happily knitting in >>> the cockpit under the dodger. She assists with the tacking, line handling >>> and is very good about getting me a cold beer if needed. The allure of the >>> J/42 for both of us is that I can have my “dance space” in the aft end of >>> the cockpit and still control the jib and more importantly, the main. I’m >>> not fond of reaching up under the dodger to adjust the main sheet and >>> traveler sheets when needed. And I tend to trim sails constantly. >>> >>> So one of the “selling” points for us of the J/42 is the large main and >>> smaller (sort of…) jib size. We’ve swallowed that point hook, line and >>> sinker. Whether it’s true is another matter but it seems logical to us. And >>> a carbon fiber mast! Gotta have one of those. ;-) >>> >>> Another reason that I’m probably not looking at another C&C is going >>> forward I’d like to avoid boats with liners. I’m not saying that liners are >>> bad or cheap but I’m just getting back to a complete refit and painting >>> (halted for the last 4 years…) of “Ronin” and having the liner to deal with >>> has been a bit of a PITA. It made re-wring the boat a much bigger task for >>> a job that is time-consuming in any case. Modifications involving cabinetry >>> and fiberglassing become somewhat more involved. Access is an issue. >>> >>> Which brings me to the Colin’s offer to meet the owners of Ceol Mor. I >>> would love to but that may have to wait Interestingly, I’d linked to their >>> blog and had been following it. Local Annapolis sailers! Anyway, all our >>> talk about moving to a J/42 is a 3-year plan and is completely off the >>> table until I get the refit of “Ronin” done. That’s looking like at least >>> another year. And honestly, when I’m done we plan on sailing the hell out >>> her, ‘cause, well, she is a great boat! >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >>> Reedville - Chesapeak >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Some cruising friends of mine just completed a circumnavigation in a J/42 >>>> - with husband, wife and 2 kids aboard. >>>> >>>> Check out their blog to get a sense of how Ceol Mor handled it. And if >>>> you want, I can put you in touch with them directly if you want to really >>>> pick their brain on the boat. They are super nice folks and would know a >>>> heluva lot more about the J/42 than any of us do. >>>> >>>> http://www.svceolmor.com/SVCeolMor/Welcome.html >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Colin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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