> I expect the J/42 would be almost as good as a C&C. < Martin,
Yup. I’ve raced on J/30’s, J/24’s, J/41’s, J/105’s, and J/120’s. I had a chance years ago to informally go head-to-head upwind against a new J/42 in flat water and ~15 knots of breeze. It couldn’t get away from us. I may have pissed the owner off. I have always been aware that the J-boat has done a very good job of “marketing" and I’ll leave it at that. I don’t want to start any flame wars. We’re in our early 60’s and I’m moving into cruising mode. The J/42 allows us (me) to handle a larger boat easily and comes with two separate cabins at each end of the boat which becomes a consideration when guests are involved for a week or so in in the Bahamas. If it were just me and my old race crew were available to crew, I’d buy a C&C 41. :-) Cheers and Happy New Year. Off to a stupid party... Dave 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Chesapeake Bay On Dec 31, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote: > > … moving up to a J/42 for other reasons. < > > Dave, > > There are two J/42s in racer cruiser mode moored close to Calypso at > Shilshole in Seattle. One of them belongs to a friend and C/R class > competitor. We have C/R raced against each other for many years. The J/42 > owes my old 43 about 12 seconds a mile and is clearly faster in light air. > It takes TWS at 10+ for Calypso to gain especially on a reach or beat. > > Both J/42s are used extensively by couples in the retirement age/mode for > cruising around the PNW. If your plan is the cruise or C/R race short-handed > I expect the J/42 would be almost as good as a C&C. > > Happy New Year, > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 4:34 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Scouting report on old C&C 38s > > Jim, > > I’m going to jump in and echo what others are saying: don’t get overly > concerned about the downwind characteristics of the older IOR influenced > hulls like C&C 38. > > If you are planning on pressing on as much canvass as possible while going > downwind then you may have your hands full. But that’s racing. Ease off a > bit. I’ve raced on IOR One-tons and there is a vast difference between that > “IOR” and the “IOR shape" of the earlier C&C’s. For that matter I would > suggest that one of loveliest but biggest handfuls of a boat downwind was the > Ted Hood designed Gulfstar Custom 40. I loved that boat and almost bought one > but, Lord, downwind with the ‘chute up there wasn’t a wheel big enough with > enough purchase to keep it under control. “Broaches R Us.” The C&C 38 is not > even in that category or the old racing IOR boats for that matter. > > Personally, I think that our C&C 37 is the follow-on to the C&C 38 (yes, I > know smaller but the specs put it at 37’ 9”...). A bit less radical in hull > design and a bit better fins and rudder shape but essentially the same > animal. We love our 37 although we are starting to think about moving up to a > J/42 for other reasons. To echo what Martin’s wife says about the 36, my wife > loves the 37 because it is the perfect blend of speed, comfort, sea-keeping, > dryness and most importantly the ability to handle the loads and be able to > manage around the docks by the two of us. > > The only bad thing I can say about the 38 is that the cockpit is bit pinched. > So is ours. Eh... > > If you spring for it you won’t be unhappy. Really good looking and nice boat. > What Martins says, it will do distance sailing comfortably. > > Cheers, > Dave > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Chesapeake Bay > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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