My 35 draws 5 foot 4 inches or so. I am aground in my slip at low tide with a strong north wind. I can *barely* get through Kent Narrows at high tide and likewise Knapp's Narrows. Getting into Queenstown involves a few bumps to get in. Places I anchor in Rock Hall and St. Michaels leave us with a few inches under the keel at low tide. A boat that draws over 6 feet would be useless to me and 8 feet would be a bad joke.
Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:58 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Current C&C History Gary 1980 was a great time. I was driving around in my Dad's Ford LTD wagon with a 350 CID V8 (correct me if that is not the exact model of engine), also drove a VW Rabbit with the 1.7 litre engine. Blue Horizon No.1 was to be delivered the next year (1981 C&C 36) . A couple of interesting points about draft and boats. Shallow realities have ruined some very nice designs (or compromised them to be less than they could be). Our 1979 George Hinterhoeller built Niagara 26 (which I always considered a C&C by the way ...) drew 4.0 ft. It was very tender. The design draft was 4ft 4 inches I believe but because the first dealer had to deal with a canal that was dredged to 4 ft the draft was changed by the time the boat went to production (and the next year the canal was dredged to 6 ft so it would not have made a differenece anyway). That was a great design for a 26 footer but imagine how much better had it had the extra ballast and draft? The Kirby 30 also suffered from a reduced draft in reality after the initial design for similar reasons. Finally the C&C 99 came out as a very nice boat with very good sailing characteristics. It had a Shoal keel option as well. Pressure from owners groups racing the boats in shallow areas such as Chesapeake had the standard keel dropped from production and replaced with the shoal keel as the only keel. Even worse was that a lot of existing owners switched to the shallower keel for OD racing ... and then the class died because the boat was compromised. I have sailed a lot on a SD C&C 99 and it sails very well. I have also seen one of the few with the opriginal keels and the carbon rig sailing. There is a huge difference in the performance! So I guess it is nice to see someone actually build a boat with the proper design draft even though that limits a lot pof places where it could be sailed. So yeah - I would love to have driven Dad's 1980 dolled out LTD wagon to the dock to jump on one of these new Farr 30 ish C&C30s to go for a sail. Would have been an absolute blast! Of course in 1980 I was 17 so I did not require the creature comforts I now desire on a boat. Guess I like the older C&Cs better now for that reason - because I am as old as those boats are! Mike ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Current C&C History Like Joe said, I don't expect to see many of the new 30's and 41's on the Miles River. 7.5 to 8 foot draft! My slip is 5 feet at low tide (once in a while, have to move the boat out to be ready for Wednesday night, as it may be stuck!). The saying around here (Chesapeake) is "if you haven't run aground, you haven't been sailing on the Chesapeake". These will just make it easier to get stuck. I guess one goes with the times, and I guess I am stuck in the early '80's, just because I like the look of those boats - the new ones are pretty in a different sort of way, but the 41 looks like a hundred other 'cruiser/racers' with the emphasis on 'racer'. The 30 looks like a Farr 30, and I'm sure I could get one of those for a fraction of the price. Even after adding the bowsprit. Oh well. Gary Stuck in 1980 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stu<mailto:s...@cncphotoalbum.com> To: C&C Email List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 4:53 PM Subject: Stus-List Current C&C History Here is a good read - it's on the new C&C Website: http://c-cyachts.com/new/about-cc/history/ Stu ________________________________ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
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