Owning an old 35 MK I, I wouldn't say the old boats were indestructible tanks like an Out Island. The build weight of a 35 was supposed to be 10,500 pounds, which was kind of light for a 35 foot boat back in the day. I will say the boat has held up for 40 years of now of some very heavy use, so obviously the boat is strong enough. The hull does work in a heavy sea - unlike many newer boats a lot of the internal structure is kind of floating in the liner and doesn't really reinforce the boat. The keel attachment with the stub keel the lead bolts to IS a lot better than a lot of newer boats. It isn't as fast though as a narrow piece of lead bolted straight to the hull.
Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:02 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List 34R hull Hi Chuck, The schedule was different for the 37+ (& XL). The XL was built with the 37+ schedule unless you specifically ordered the R schedule. For example, I have the build file for hull #72 and the sales order shows the owner paid $4,000.00 extra for the "37R Laminate Hull & Deck" in his build. Don't forget the laminate wasn't just "1 oz chop and 1 oz mat", it also had two layers of C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat, one layer inside the balsa and one out above the waterline. Below the waterline the layup was one layer 1 oz. chop, one layer 1 oz. mat and one layer of C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat outside the balsa and one layer of C72K/100 Fabmat inside. This Fabmat is much heavier than the 1 oz. chop and 1 oz. mat at about 2.47 oz. for the C72K/100 and 4.94 oz. for the C77K/200. The layup was much heavier at the turn of the bilge across the (almost) flat bottom of the hull to the keel sump as an additional two layers of C77/200 Kevlar Fabmat were added and further, in the keel sump, the balsa was replaced with two layers of Compositex. Ken H. On 11 October 2013 08:41, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net <mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > wrote: Ken, That's interesting. 1 oz chop and 1 oz mat seem ridiculously light. Doesn't say how many layers of each? Was the schedule different for the plus? the XL? FWIW, I'm holding the 4" circle I cut from the deck when I installed solar fans on my 34R. The piece measures 1/32 shy of 1" thick, and I can see the many layers of glass, with two separate layers of kevlar with their yellow fuzzy ends. The balsa is 3/4", outer glass layer w gel coat is 5/32", and interior layer is 3/32" thick approximately. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ _____ From: "Ken Heaton" <kenhea...@gmail.com <mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:08:03 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 34R hull >From the factory drawings, the Laminate Schedule for the 1990 C&C 37 R was: C&C 37R Laminate, Hydrex resin used for the entire laminate. Topsides (total thickness 1.16") 1. Gelcoat 2. 1.0 oz. Chop 3. 1.0 oz. Mat 4. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat 5. 1" Aircraft Balsa Core 6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat Bottom (total thickness 1.20") 1. Gelcoat 2. 1.0 oz. Chop 3. 1.0 oz. Mat 4. C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat 5. 1" Aircraft Balsa Core 6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat I imagine the 34R would have bee about the same. The 37+ was a bit thicker, both topsides and bottom. Ken H. On 10 October 2013 16:40, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > wrote: I always thought the 34R hull was made from kevlar.....am I wrong? Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/10/10 11:40 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: 34R was made by a completely different company than the 99. I believe was also not epoxy. _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize. Mike The new hulls are stiff but they hole through a lot easier than the hull of an older C&C which has solid glass reinforced polyester...Once saw a power boat in slow reverse with the ss swim ladder supports pointing aft...go too close to a 34R and there was a hole through the hull...rather easy to puncture I thought On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com <mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> > wrote: Curtis Not really sure how the hulls are weaker. They are not made with solid polyester based resin layup though. The C&C 99 is laid up using Epoxy not polyester so in many respects could be considered stronger .. Or if not stronger than certainly lighter for the equivalent amount of strength? Speaking of Beneteaus. The Beneteau 367 sails well for racing and has a huge interior for entertaining or cruising. Is priced about the same as a C&C99 on the used market Mike -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Curtis Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:12 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize. The 99 has a weaker hull than the C&C boats? Right On 10/9/13, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com <mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> > wrote: > There is a 99 one for sale in Nova Scotia. Google Scotia Coast Yachts. > > Have sailed on a 99 numerous times. Is a great boat. > > Mike > ________________________________ > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Marek > Fluder > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:16 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize. > > > I am opened for C&C 99 but there are few and far between. > As for 33-II the admiral would prefer something newer than the 80's, > which I do not oppose :) > Kind regards, > > Marek > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2013-10-08, at 11:33 AM, "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com <mailto:bushma...@aol.com> > wrote: > > > > If you're looking at the 320, why not look at the C&C 99? or a > nice 33-II ? > > > > > Richard > 1987 33-II, Ohio River, Mile 584 > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
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