Hi Chuck,

The schedule was different for the 37+ (& XL). The XL was built with the
37+ schedule unless you specifically ordered the R schedule.  For example,
I have the build file for hull #72 and the sales order shows the owner paid
$4,000.00 extra for the "37R Laminate Hull & Deck" in his build.
Don't forget the laminate wasn't just "1 oz chop and 1 oz mat", it also had
two layers of C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat, one layer inside the balsa and one
out above the waterline.

Below the waterline the layup was one layer 1 oz. chop, one layer 1 oz. mat
and one layer of C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat outside the balsa and one layer of
C72K/100 Fabmat inside.  This Fabmat is much heavier than the 1 oz. chop
and 1 oz. mat at about 2.47 oz. for the C72K/100 and 4.94 oz. for the
C77K/200.

The layup was much heavier at the turn of the bilge across the (almost)
flat bottom of the hull to the keel sump as an additional two layers of
C77/200 Kevlar Fabmat were added and further, in the keel sump, the balsa
was replaced with two layers of Compositex.

Ken H.


On 11 October 2013 08:41, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Ken, That's interesting.  1 oz chop and 1 oz mat seem ridiculously light.
> Doesn't say how many layers of each?   Was the schedule different for the
> plus?  the XL?
>
> FWIW, I'm holding the 4" circle I cut from the deck when I installed solar
> fans on my 34R.  The piece measures 1/32 shy of 1" thick, and I can see the
> many layers of glass, with two separate layers of kevlar with their yellow
> fuzzy ends.  The balsa is 3/4", outer glass layer w gel coat is 5/32", and
> interior layer is 3/32" thick approximately.
>
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ken Heaton" <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:08:03 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 34R hull
>
> From the factory drawings, the Laminate Schedule for the 1990 C&C 37 R was:
>
> C&C 37R Laminate, Hydrex resin used for the entire laminate.
>
> Topsides (total thickness 1.16")
>
> 1. Gelcoat
>
> 2. 1.0 oz. Chop
>
> 3. 1.0 oz. Mat
>
> 4. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
>
> 5. 1” Aircraft Balsa Core
>
> 6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
>
>
>
> Bottom (total thickness 1.20")
>
> 1. Gelcoat
>
> 2. 1.0 oz. Chop
>
> 3. 1.0 oz. Mat
>
> 4. C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat
>
> 5. 1” Aircraft Balsa Core
>
> 6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
>
>
> I imagine the 34R would have bee about the same.
>
> The 37+ was a bit thicker, both topsides and bottom.
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On 10 October 2013 16:40, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>>  I always thought the 34R hull was made from kevlar.....am I wrong?
>>
>> Bob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>> On 2013/10/10 11:40 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
>>
>> 34R was made by a completely different company than the 99.  I believe
>> was also not epoxy.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* CnC-List 
>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *dwight veinot
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:33 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize.
>>
>>  Mike
>>
>>  The new hulls are stiff but they hole through a lot easier than the hull
>> of an older C&C which has solid glass reinforced polyester...Once saw a
>> power boat in slow reverse with the ss swim ladder supports pointing
>> aft...go too close to a 34R and there was a hole through the hull...rather
>> easy to puncture I thought
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Curtis
>>>
>>> Not really sure how the hulls are weaker.  They are not made with solid
>>> polyester based resin layup though.  The C&C 99 is laid up using Epoxy
>>> not polyester so in many respects could be considered stronger .. Or if
>>> not stronger than certainly lighter for the equivalent amount of
>>> strength?
>>>
>>> Speaking of Beneteaus.  The Beneteau 367 sails well for racing and has a
>>> huge interior for entertaining or cruising.  Is priced about the same as
>>> a C&C99 on the used market
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>>>  Curtis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:12 AM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize.
>>>
>>> The 99 has a weaker hull than the C&C boats? Right
>>>
>>> On 10/9/13, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote:
>>> > There is a 99 one for sale in Nova Scotia.  Google Scotia Coast
>>> Yachts.
>>> >
>>> > Have sailed on a 99 numerous times.  Is a great boat.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > ________________________________
>>> >
>>> > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Marek
>>> > Fluder
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:16 PM
>>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking to upsize.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am opened for C&C 99 but there are few and far between.
>>> > As for 33-II the admiral would prefer something newer than the 80's,
>>> > which I do not oppose :)
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Marek
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> > On 2013-10-08, at 11:33 AM, "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >       If you're looking at the 320, why not look at the C&C 99?  or a
>>> > nice 33-II ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >       Richard
>>> >       1987 33-II, Ohio River, Mile 584
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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