Chuck Consider installing a seperate track for your #3 or some sort of inhauler system. If you have access to a C&C 115 you can see an inhauler setup that is standard on the boats. Mike
________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Risch Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:10 PM To: CNC CNC Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34 Chuck, When I go from the #1 (150%) to # 2 (135%) boat still points fine as they are still taking advantage of a well placed inboard track. My # 3 (110%) however is another story. Boat gets creamed upwind with the #3 when sheeted to the track used for the #1 and #2. It is too far aft by 6-12" and that makes a big difference. I am also convinced I should be able to sheet the blade-like sail closer inboard to my cabin trunk "inboard-inboard" track. The #3 at 110% however is too big. The shrouds and it are not happy co-existing. So my next order of sails will include a #3 of 100% so I can sheet in to the "inboard-inboard" track. I have visions of my new main and blade looking like those Farr 40s from the stern...damn those sails are sheeted tight to the center-line. Boat porn in my opinion. I will report back next season to see if my expensive experiment works. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ________________________________ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:16:58 +0000 From: cscheaf...@comcast.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34 Always thought a smaller headsail will point higher than a big one? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ________________________________ From: "David Risch" <davidrisc...@msn.com> To: "CNC CNC" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:54:15 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34 Rob Ball told me to not let the 40 get beyond 22 degrees of heel. That plus I will not let the rudder go beyond 5 degrees of angle. Off the wind less heel is easier on all aboard and faster. Racing uphill I push the upper limit of that number by keeping the biggest headsail for pointing. All sail configs follow suit. I doubt that figure is universal but it may help. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:28:45 -0300 > From: robertabb...@eastlink.ca > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > CC: oldste...@sympatico.ca > Subject: Stus-List C&C 34 > > Steve: > > I am going to throw one at the list that should raise some controversy. > There was a C&C 34 at our club....the owner was a coastal cruiser, felt > the boat was a little tender for that purpose so he had a 'shoe added to > the keel' . > > We were both in Halifax harbor....about 18 to 20 knts true and 3' > seas.....I only had my 110% Sobstad up and he had a larger headsail (I > count not be sure if it was a 135% or 150%) and his main sail. > > The wind was building.....he was coming in, I was going out. When we > passed each other, he turned around to come back with me upwind. > .....his boat was overpowered......flogging his main.....rounding up in > the gusts. > > I constantly pulled away from him.....he hung in for about 20 minutes > and then gave up. > > I can't speak for the 34 but my boat can not carry a 150% (plus a main) > in 20 knts true. > > Let the fun begin. > > Bob Abbott\ > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > > > > On 2013/10/07 10:23 PM, OldSteveH wrote: > > That's a great list Dennis. I do most of those things but forgot about > > moving the genoa sheet aft, that's a good one. > > The other thing I do which is not on your list is to feather off the main > > and carry some luff when we're overpowered, re-trimming as opportunity > > allows. From now on I will ease the genoa car back first. > > > > Per other comment about heel the 34 seems to be comfortable carrying 20 > > degrees of heel and still point and keep up her speed. Guestimating the > > performance at 25 to be similar to 15, I have generally decided to reef when > > I am constantly over 25 and there are no more sail trim adjustments > > available. > > > > Last Sat we were able to keep the #1 up in 20 knots true (25-26 apparent). > > I'm certain we could not have placed as well without it. BTW only 4 aboard, > > not much railmeat to help out! > > > > Dennis, I have an inboard track and also a coach roof track for the #3. > > I'm not seeing what advantage leading the #1 from the toerail will give > > except to limit how close the sail can be sheeted, but also taking away my > > ability to adjust the car position. > > > > Steve Hood > > S/V Diamond Girl > > C&C 34 > > Lions Head ON > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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