We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water
and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything
over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15.
But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind,
the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80
and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate
120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three
seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute
guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place.
I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper.
Gary
30-1 and J-80 crew
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck S
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a C&C??
In light wind, a 21 ft Viper 640 led the fleet and beat a C&C 33 MkII, my
34R, a 37+, and a fleet of other boats. They advertise Vipers as "35 ft speed
in 21 ft trailerable boat".
The Bristol 43.3 has a PHRF of 117 while the Bristol 47.7 has a PHRF of 111,
not bad for centerboard cruisers.
Ted Hood also designed for Gulfstar and Little Harbor.
My favorite cruising offshore designs are Hanse for their self tacking jib
and maybe Oyster for there breathtaking lines
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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From: "Robert Abbott" <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
To: "Richard Walter" <sailind...@yahoo.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:00:13 PM
Subject: Stus-List moving from a C&C??
Richard:
I have absolutely no experience with Bristol yachts...but I will share this
one story....a few weeks back there was a Bristol 41 (I believe it was a 41)
here ....boat now sold and moved out of Halifax.
In light to medium to air, a Mirage 24 out sailed the Bristol 41. That's
all I have to say!
Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2013/08/20 10:59 AM, Richard Walter wrote:
Greetings,
After almost 10 years aboard INDIGO, our 1978 36-footer, we are considering
moving to a different boat. We would like a heavier coastal/bluewater cruiser
with more comfort, better tracking, more convenient sail-handling (in-mast or
in-boom) and a master stateroom with a centerline berth (which pretty much
requires we buy a center cockpit boat). We are looking closely at Bristol
yachts; they seem to meet all of our criteria, especially the 43.3 and the
47.7. Does anyone have any experience with Bristols, especially the 43.3 and
47.7? Any other Bristols we should consider? Any other boat brands we should
consider?
Feel free to contact me off-list so as to not burden Stu'sList with a
non-C&C topic.
sailind...@yahoo.com
Thank you,
Richard
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