The Viper is a different experience. It's a three man windsurfer. And I doubt any have ever sailed from Annapolis to Newport.
Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:45:37 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a C&C?? We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15. But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind, the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80 and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate 120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place. I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary 30-1 and J-80 crew ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck S To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a C&C?? In light wind , a 21 ft Viper 640 led the fleet and beat a C&C 33 MkII, my 34R, a 37+, and a fleet of other boats. They advertise Vipers as "35 ft speed in 21 ft trailerable boat". The Bristol 43.3 has a PHRF of 117 while the Bristol 47.7 has a PHRF of 111, not bad for centerboard cruisers. Ted Hood also designed for Gulfstar and Little Harbor . My favorite cruising offshore designs are Hanse for their self tacking jib and maybe Oyster for there breathtaking lines Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Abbott" <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> To: "Richard Walter" <sailind...@yahoo.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:00:13 PM Subject: Stus-List moving from a C&C?? Richard: I have absolutely no experience with Bristol yachts...but I will share this one story....a few weeks back there was a Bristol 41 (I believe it was a 41) here ....boat now sold and moved out of Halifax. In light to medium to air, a Mirage 24 out sailed the Bristol 41. That's all I have to say! Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/08/20 10:59 AM, Richard Walter wrote: <blockquote> Greetings, After almost 10 years aboard INDIGO, our 1978 36-footer, we are considering moving to a different boat. We would like a heavier coastal/bluewater cruiser with more comfort, better tracking, more convenient sail-handling (in-mast or in-boom) and a master stateroom with a centerline berth (which pretty much requires we buy a center cockpit boat). We are looking closely at Bristol yachts; they seem to meet all of our criteria, especially the 43.3 and the 47.7. Does anyone have any experience with Bristols, especially the 43.3 and 47.7? Any other Bristols we should consider? Any other boat brands we should consider? Feel free to contact me off-list so as to not burden Stu'sList with a non-C&C topic. sailind...@yahoo.com Thank you, Richard _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com </blockquote> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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