Rick, I was just commenting on the diversity of the PHRF boats that are allowed. A Viper or J-29 with the same 111 handicap? The sportboats are tough to beat in our little flat water venue. I find a 30-1 is just fine as a camper.....
Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Brass To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a C&C?? Gary; Are you talking about a Viper 640? At only 21 feet long I would not be surprised if chop would kill the speed. We have a Viper 830 locally (Built by Thompson, the designer, not by the builders of the 640). NC PHRF is 78, so Chessie PHRF would be around 81. Fast and sleek sportboat, but still not much of a boat for camping. Now if I were looking for a sleek, fast, camp-able, trailerable sportboat, I’d look at a Thompson 30. Chessie PHRF is 30 on Wairre, the boat that races up there. Only 2 feet longer than the 830 but with a workable interior. Lifting deep keel with a bulb, and outboard in a well under the cockpit that comes up out of the water so the well can have a solid floor to fair the hull. Slick boat. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a C&C?? We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15. But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind, the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80 and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate 120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place. I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary 30-1 and J-80 crew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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