I would advise getting a professional rebuild done if the advice here does not 
help.

There are some other things you could try, such as spray or liquid cleaners, 
but the
residue will go through the engine. The Atomic 4 does not have high compression
or cylinder temperature so those chemicals are going to get to your exhaust hose
or possibly past the rings. Maybe not, but I would not risk it. It is easy to 
remove
the fuel pump water settling cup, partially fill it with carb cleaner, and then 
idle the
motor. That will clean the idle circuit reasonably well.

The chemicals used at a rebuild shop will clean all the gum and varnish off. 
A spray just is not strong enough and does not sit concentrated long enough.

A rebuild should also include adjusting the carb on a wet flow bench. The shop
will use the flow bench to set air/fuel mixture to spec usually at a few points,

1) on choke
2) idle
3) wide open throttle

They will also know if the carb is not adjusting correctly, something very hard 
to
guess at when trying it on a live engine.

The Zenith carb on Windburn was rebuilt by Carburetor Rebuilders Company Limited
in Toronto for about $200. They are at:

http://www.carbrebuilders.com/

Mike

C&C 30
Windburn

  

 
Message: 2 
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:48:23 -0400 
From: "Michael Dean" <md...@ca.inter.net> 
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. 
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Danny, 
 
I am assuming that you didn't forget to try adjusting the idle mixture 
screw. (I forgot one year - duh!)  Did it have any effect?  It may also be 
worth loosening the distributor and turning it back and forth 10 degrees or 
so, though timing as very non-critical on the A4.  Another thing to try is 
to slowly pull the choke out in small increments.  If it idles better then 
something in the idle fuel path is likely plugged a bit and it is running 
lean at idle. 
 
Another possibility is the float valve isn't closing perfectly and at idle 
too much fuel is entering the carb.  Sometimes the float valve can be freed 
up by shutting off the fuel supply and letting the engine run until the carb 
is empty.  Open the fuel supply valve and start the engine - will take a 
moment or two.  The rush of fuel into the carb can sometimes clean the float 
valve if it is a bit gummy. 
 
I also assume the plugs are good and properly gapped. 
 
All I can suggest that doesn't require removing the carb again and blowing 
out the various jets with compressed air. 
 
Mike 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
djhaug...@juno.com 
Sent: August-19-13 2:55 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb rebuild 
 
Hello all, 
 
I'm looking into rebuilding my carb.  I'm having some idling issues and It's 
getting better and better but I think It should be better still.  When I 
looked inside the carb.  It was dirty and gritty...no good, 
 
I sprayed it all with carb cleaner.  Although it is better I want to try a 
rebuild and more aggressive cleaning. 
 
I've found the moyer rebuild kit at $87.00 + shipping then I found this one 
 
for $26.00 and I could buy 3 for the less and get free shipping... 
http://www.carburetion.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?Part=KT-5535 
 
It seems it is even a better kit in that it has more parts, specifically, it 
seems to have the throttle arm seal and cap in it. 
 
Is moyer really just price gouging?  
 
he even charges another $12.50 for his tech tip videos on trouble shooting 
you carb.  I mean I'm all for a guy making a buck but, you'd think if he is 
charging more than triple on parts, he could throw in the videos...  I'll 
probably pay the $12.50 to see it, especially if I save all that dough on 
the kit!  Then, I don't have to feel guilty about not giving the guy my 
business...  I mean I'd hate to see him go out of business... 
 
Anyway, maybe this is a substandard kit? 
 
Also, I have a rebuilt carb that I did last year before I knew I was buying 
the Moyer exchange engine.  So, I'll swap that in, I would just like to have 
a rebuilt one on standby... 
 
I also found a farm tractor supply selling the whole carb for $175.46  Moyer 
wants $270 
 
http://www.farmersserviceinc.com/marine.htm 
 
Any comments or suggestions are always appreciated!  I thought this could be 
good infor for the other A4 boats... if there are any left LOL 
 
Danny 
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