I've been in contact with Don through email...I tried everything he suggested so far...
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:29:01 -0400 I would call Moyer ASAP and see what they say. I also would get a new carb from someplace if this goes on. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. The new engine came with a carb...whether new or not...I'm not sure at this point. I did assume that. A few weeks is correct, We only got in the water in late august last year and took the boat out maybe 6 times. This year we have only been out 3 times so far because I've been fighting these issues since early july... Those 20 something hours include idling and running at the dock during troubleshooting and warming up and prepping to leave dock or mooring... Under load I'd bet it hasn't seen 12-15 hours. Actually now that I think about it...I haven't even burned a full tank of fuel yet. 18 gallons... On average, I probably run the engine 1 to 3 hours each time I take it out. If i'm just day-sailing, a 1/2 hour out of the harbor and 1/2 hour back in... I'm hoping one day soon to shorten that as I learn the boat and the harbor and maybe begin sailing in and out of the harbor! Of course, that seems an ambitious goal right now... Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:58:44 -0400 Just FYI – I bought a new carb (at full Moyer price too) when I just could NOT get the engine to idle correctly no matter how many times I cleaned or rebuilt it. Apparently they develop issues other than what can be fixed by cleaning. I have noticed the metal itself will corrode and produce this odd looking whitish gunk if any water comes through with the gas and/or if the engine gets flooded. I still don’t get the 20 some hours thing. Wouldn’t that be a few weeks at most from being brand new? I think I had 20 hours on my new engine within 3 weeks of installing it at most. Did the new engine come with a new carb? Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. Josh, Pretty cool video, I'll have to watch more closely from home. I really appreciate the video and commend you for making and posting it! Thanks, Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:11:17 -0400 This video reviews some basic carburetor functions.� It is of a basic Chinese knock off carb but maybe it hits on something you didn't know.� Worth a try anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaMqiHvWGec&feature=youtube_gdata_player Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 20, 2013 12:06 AM, "jtsails" <jtsai...@gmail.com> wrote: Also make sure the scavenge tube isn't blocked. James Delaney C&C 38 MkII Oriental, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Dean" <md...@ca.inter.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb things to try. Danny, I am assuming that you didn't forget to try adjusting the idle mixture screw. (I forgot one year - duh!) �Did it have any effect? �It may also be worth loosening the distributor and turning it back and forth 10 degrees or so, though timing as very non-critical on the A4. �Another thing to try is to slowly pull the choke out in small increments. �If it idles better then something in the idle fuel path is likely plugged a bit and it is running lean at idle. Another possibility is the float valve isn't closing perfectly and at idle too much fuel is entering the carb. �Sometimes the float valve can be freed up by shutting off the fuel supply and letting the engine run until the carb is empty. �Open the fuel supply valve and start the engine - will take a moment or two. �The rush of fuel into the carb can sometimes clean the float valve if it is a bit gummy. I also assume the plugs are good and properly gapped. All I can suggest that doesn't require removing the carb again and blowing out the various jets with compressed air. Mike -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: August-19-13 2:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4 Carb rebuild Hello all, I'm looking into rebuilding my carb. �I'm having some idling issues and It's getting better and better but I think It should be better still. �When I looked inside the carb. �It was dirty and gritty...no good, I sprayed it all with carb cleaner. �Although it is better I want to try a rebuild and more aggressive cleaning. I've found the moyer rebuild kit at $87.00 + shipping then I found this one for $26.00 and I could buy 3 for the less and get free shipping... http://www.carburetion.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?Part=KT-5535 It seems it is even a better kit in that it has more parts, specifically, it seems to have the throttle arm seal and cap in it. Is moyer really just price gouging? he even charges another $12.50 for his tech tip videos on trouble shooting you carb. �I mean I'm all for a guy making a buck but, you'd think if he is charging more than triple on parts, he could throw in the videos... �I'll probably pay the $12.50 to see it, especially if I save all that dough on the kit! �Then, I don't have to feel guilty about not giving the guy my business... �I mean I'd hate to see him go out of business... Anyway, maybe this is a substandard kit? Also, I have a rebuilt carb that I did last year before I knew I was buying the Moyer exchange engine. �So, I'll swap that in, I would just like to have a rebuilt one on standby... I also found a farm tractor supply selling the whole carb for $175.46 Moyer wants $270 http://www.farmersserviceinc.com/marine.htm Any comments or suggestions are always appreciated! �I thought this could be good infor for the other A4 boats... if there are any left LOL Danny _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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