Mark, I've never owned an A4, but I grew up on gas powered boats. Almost every time we had engine problems they were related to the points/distributor. I'd strongly recommend the digital ignition. Its a cheap upgrade.
Joel On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar <drbod...@accesswave.ca>wrote: > > Dennis and Danny, Thanks for the additional comments on the A4's > From all my reading I've seen that diesels can cause major headaches as > well - so I guess it's more about getting an engine that is running well. > > As for the "Toy" comment - Rich, I well aware that this can become a > passion and a lifestyle, but for me right now, juggling 4 kids, house > reno's and work - the boat is my cottage, weekend get away and fun time, > but still ends up taking 2nd to soccer practices and other kids activities. > No matter what I just don't have a huge amount of free time, or spare $ - > bumping up the boat is already a leap of faith. > But it fits - when I bought the M24 last year I renamed it "Big Picture" - > on the basis that I don't really have the time or $ - but the looking at > the big picture this is more important. I expect if/when I get a new boat > I'll re-use the name (or Bigger Picture). > > I'm hoping to get on a few boats in the next couple weeks. Glad I grabbed > one of those moisture meters when Canadian Tire had them on sale - I only > just realized that the 33 and 34 have balsa cored hulls, plus I'll have a > few decks to check > > > Mark > > --------------------- > Dr. Mark Bodnar > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > Bedford Chiropracticwww.bedfordchiro.ca > --------------------- > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > > On 01/06/2013 8:09 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > > Mark, > > Having had two AT4's, I can say I like the engine. I put electronic > ignition on my 1st one but stayed with the standard points and condenser on > my second. They were both dependable. > > The issue I had with AT4's was not flammability. This issue is way > overblown. > > The real issue with AT4's is power to the prop. The hp/torque curve is > steeper than that of a diesel. To crank out the full 25 or so hp of the > AT4, you need to run 2500-2800 rpm. The vast majority of AT4's are 1:1 > drive. That's why they swing a 5 or 6 pitch prop. If you're punching into > seas at 3 knots, running 2500 rpm will result in a lot of cavitation. > Making bubbles isn't efficient in transferring hp to forward motion. > > Otherwise AT4's are great engines. > > Dennis C. > Touché 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > Currently enjoying a cockpit cocktail in Palafox Pier marina in Pensacola > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:05 AM, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> > wrote: > > > Thanks for all the feedback. Some of the messages were lost to the list, > but I think I saw them in other responses. > > Clearly the first thing I need to do is get on a bunch of boats, figure > out the space. I've tried to guess at how we are going to use the boat, so > I need to see how different boats might fit that. Plus good advice to ask > owners about what weaknesses they see with their own boats. > > I've narrowed my search mostly to C&C's because, as Rich notes, it's a > popular boat with good resale value, plus there are lots available. > > Based on the advice from the listers I'll open myself up to going a bit > bigger. I was initially focused on getting "the smallest boat I can live > with" - thinking it would save me money, but I realize that I could end up > with a boat that is too small to enjoy. I'll also focus more on boat > condition rather than size -- repairs on an older boat can easily add up to > more than the cost of the boat. > > Last I also had a good discussion that has me being less threatened by > A4's. I gather they can be quieter and smoother than a diesel. Again, > I'll have to get on a couple similar sized boats and hear/feel the > difference. > > I'm sure I'll be looking for more advice as it goes forwards, > > Mark > > > --------------------- > Dr. Mark Bodnar > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > Bedford Chiropracticwww.bedfordchiro.ca > --------------------- > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > > On 30/05/2013 9:49 PM, Knowles Rich wrote: > > Hmm. Good list, but... If one is prone to indecision and second guessing, > this simply adds to the huge pile of considerations to ponder before you > can go sailing. Perhaps better to decide on a popular make like C&C that > will be resellable, get a couple of knowledgeable friends you believe in, > and go looking for a decent local boat in the price range you can tolerate. > Buy it, go sailing, and learn from the experience. There are always bigger, > better, faster and fancier boats out there, but you won't really know what > you want/need until you have tried a couple. > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2013-05-30, at 21:26, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Nice list! > > I might add PHRF, electronics, sail inventory, holding tank, pressure > water, hot water heater. > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On May 30, 2013, at 8:19 PM, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > One of my crew is looking for a boat, his first. I sent him a list of > things to consider. Here's most of them. > > Bridge clearance- friend of mine has a nice big boat that can't get > under several critical bridges leading to some prime sailing. Touche' is > even too tall to get under some bridges where we sail > How are the shrouds attached? Most C&C's carry the shroud load to the > hull. Many boats carry the load to a bulkhead. I don't like that. > Keel - fin, bulb, shoal, wing, full, centerboard, dagger board > Anchor locker on foredeck? > Fold down, pedestal or mast dinette table > Split lower shrouds vs inline shrouds > Straight vs swept back spreaders? > Baby stay? > Diesel vs gas? > Folding or fixed prop? > Head? Shower? > Tiller vs wheel? > Propane stove? > Mast head vs fractional? If I was looking for a race boat today, I'd go > fractional > Traveler location? End boom, bridgedeck, cabintop? > Big cockpit for entertaining? > Straight drive vs V-drive? > Fiberglass vs holly/teak sole? > Opening ports? > Sugar scoop transom, stern ladder, opening > Fiberglass headliner vs vinyl headliner > > The list goes on and on. > > When I was shopping for my first boat, I was pretty ignorant. I wanted > a wheel, diesel and shower. Result? First boat - 0 for 3. Second boat > had a wheel. :) > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo > Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo > Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551
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