Mark, Having had two AT4's, I can say I like the engine. I put electronic ignition on my 1st one but stayed with the standard points and condenser on my second. They were both dependable.
The issue I had with AT4's was not flammability. This issue is way overblown. The real issue with AT4's is power to the prop. The hp/torque curve is steeper than that of a diesel. To crank out the full 25 or so hp of the AT4, you need to run 2500-2800 rpm. The vast majority of AT4's are 1:1 drive. That's why they swing a 5 or 6 pitch prop. If you're punching into seas at 3 knots, running 2500 rpm will result in a lot of cavitation. Making bubbles isn't efficient in transferring hp to forward motion. Otherwise AT4's are great engines. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Currently enjoying a cockpit cocktail in Palafox Pier marina in Pensacola Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:05 AM, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote: > > Thanks for all the feedback. Some of the messages were lost to the list, but > I think I saw them in other responses. > > Clearly the first thing I need to do is get on a bunch of boats, figure out > the space. I've tried to guess at how we are going to use the boat, so I > need to see how different boats might fit that. Plus good advice to ask > owners about what weaknesses they see with their own boats. > > I've narrowed my search mostly to C&C's because, as Rich notes, it's a > popular boat with good resale value, plus there are lots available. > > Based on the advice from the listers I'll open myself up to going a bit > bigger. I was initially focused on getting "the smallest boat I can live > with" - thinking it would save me money, but I realize that I could end up > with a boat that is too small to enjoy. I'll also focus more on boat > condition rather than size -- repairs on an older boat can easily add up to > more than the cost of the boat. > > Last I also had a good discussion that has me being less threatened by A4's. > I gather they can be quieter and smoother than a diesel. Again, I'll have to > get on a couple similar sized boats and hear/feel the difference. > > I'm sure I'll be looking for more advice as it goes forwards, > > Mark > > > --------------------- > Dr. Mark Bodnar > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > Bedford Chiropractic > www.bedfordchiro.ca > --------------------- > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > On 30/05/2013 9:49 PM, Knowles Rich wrote: >> Hmm. Good list, but... If one is prone to indecision and second guessing, >> this simply adds to the huge pile of considerations to ponder before you can >> go sailing. Perhaps better to decide on a popular make like C&C that will be >> resellable, get a couple of knowledgeable friends you believe in, and go >> looking for a decent local boat in the price range you can tolerate. Buy it, >> go sailing, and learn from the experience. There are always bigger, better, >> faster and fancier boats out there, but you won't really know what you >> want/need until you have tried a couple. >> >> Rich Knowles >> Indigo. LF38 >> Halifax >> >> On 2013-05-30, at 21:26, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Nice list! >> >> I might add PHRF, electronics, sail inventory, holding tank, pressure water, >> hot water heater. >> >> Joel >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 30, 2013, at 8:19 PM, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> One of my crew is looking for a boat, his first. I sent >>> him a list of things to consider. Here's most of them. >>> >>> Bridge clearance- friend of mine has a nice big boat that can't get under >>> several critical bridges leading to some prime sailing. Touche' is even >>> too tall to get under some bridges where we sail >>> How are the shrouds attached? Most C&C's carry the shroud load to the >>> hull. Many boats carry the load to a bulkhead. I don't like that. >>> Keel - fin, bulb, shoal, wing, full, centerboard, dagger board >>> Anchor locker on foredeck? >>> Fold down, pedestal or mast dinette table >>> Split lower shrouds vs inline shrouds >>> Straight vs swept back spreaders? >>> Baby stay? >>> Diesel vs gas? >>> Folding or fixed prop? >>> Head? Shower? >>> Tiller vs wheel? >>> Propane stove? >>> Mast head vs fractional? If I was looking for a race boat today, I'd go >>> fractional >>> Traveler location? End boom, bridgedeck, cabintop? >>> Big cockpit for entertaining? >>> Straight drive vs V-drive? >>> Fiberglass vs holly/teak sole? >>> Opening ports? >>> Sugar scoop transom, stern ladder, opening >>> Fiberglass headliner vs vinyl headliner >>> >>> The list goes on and on. >>> >>> When I was shopping for my first boat, I was pretty ignorant. I wanted a >>> wheel, diesel and shower. Result? First boat - 0 for 3. Second boat had >>> a wheel. :) >>> >>> Dennis C. >>> Touche' 35-1 #83 >>> Mandeville, LA >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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