That's why they have loans. Use the bank's money.
Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 4:50:13 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Bigger Boat Question Well that would be nice, but I'm not prepared to sink that much money into a "toy" I know that I'll spend lots of money as time passes, but if I drop $35G on the boat PLUS upkeep etc, well I'd need to save money for a couple more years to afford that, right about the time my oldest will start siphoning off cash to go to university! --------------------- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca --------------------- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 01/06/2013 5:10 PM, Knowles Rich wrote: Next bit of advice if you want to be comfortable: suggest increasing your budget to at least 35k. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-06-01, at 13:05, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" < drbod...@accesswave.ca > wrote: Thanks for all the feedback. Some of the messages were lost to the list, but I think I saw them in other responses. Clearly the first thing I need to do is get on a bunch of boats, figure out the space. I've tried to guess at how we are going to use the boat, so I need to see how different boats might fit that. Plus good advice to ask owners about what weaknesses they see with their own boats. I've narrowed my search mostly to C&C's because, as Rich notes, it's a popular boat with good resale value, plus there are lots available. Based on the advice from the listers I'll open myself up to going a bit bigger. I was initially focused on getting "the smallest boat I can live with" - thinking it would save me money, but I realize that I could end up with a boat that is too small to enjoy. I'll also focus more on boat condition rather than size -- repairs on an older boat can easily add up to more than the cost of the boat. Last I also had a good discussion that has me being less threatened by A4's. I gather they can be quieter and smoother than a diesel. Again, I'll have to get on a couple similar sized boats and hear/feel the difference. I'm sure I'll be looking for more advice as it goes forwards, Mark --------------------- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca --------------------- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 30/05/2013 9:49 PM, Knowles Rich wrote: <blockquote> Hmm. Good list, but... If one is prone to indecision and second guessing, this simply adds to the huge pile of considerations to ponder before you can go sailing. Perhaps better to decide on a popular make like C&C that will be resellable, get a couple of knowledgeable friends you believe in, and go looking for a decent local boat in the price range you can tolerate. Buy it, go sailing, and learn from the experience. There are always bigger, better, faster and fancier boats out there, but you won't really know what you want/need until you have tried a couple. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-05-30, at 21:26, Joel Aronson < joel.aron...@gmail.com > wrote: Nice list! I might add PHRF, electronics, sail inventory, holding tank, pressure water, hot water heater. Joel Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2013, at 8:19 PM, "Dennis C." < capt...@yahoo.com > wrote: <blockquote> One of my crew is looking for a boat, his first. I sent him a list of things to consider. Here's most of them. Bridge clearance- friend of mine has a nice big boat that can't get under several critical bridges leading to some prime sailing. Touche' is even too tall to get under some bridges where we sail How are the shrouds attached? Most C&C's carry the shroud load to the hull. Many boats carry the load to a bulkhead. I don't like that. Keel - fin, bulb, shoal, wing, full, centerboard, dagger board Anchor locker on foredeck? Fold down, pedestal or mast dinette table Split lower shrouds vs inline shrouds Straight vs swept back spreaders? Baby stay? Diesel vs gas? Folding or fixed prop? Head? Shower? Tiller vs wheel? Propane stove? Mast head vs fractional? If I was looking for a race boat today, I'd go fractional Traveler location? End boom, bridgedeck, cabintop? Big cockpit for entertaining? Straight drive vs V-drive? Fiberglass vs holly/teak sole? Opening ports? Sugar scoop transom, stern ladder, opening Fiberglass headliner vs vinyl headliner The list goes on and on. When I was shopping for my first boat, I was pretty ignorant. I wanted a wheel, diesel and shower. Result? First boat - 0 for 3. Second boat had a wheel. :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA <blockquote> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com </blockquote> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com </blockquote> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com </blockquote> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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