Next bit of advice if you want to be comfortable:  suggest increasing your 
budget to at least 35k. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-06-01, at 13:05, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote:


Thanks for all the feedback.  Some of the messages were lost to the list, but I 
think I saw them in other responses.

Clearly the first thing I need to do is get on a bunch of boats, figure out the 
space.  I've tried to guess at how we are going to       use the boat, so I 
need to see how different boats might fit that.  Plus good advice to ask owners 
about what weaknesses they see with their own boats.  

I've narrowed my search mostly to C&C's because, as Rich notes, it's a popular 
boat with good resale value, plus there are lots available. 

Based on the advice from the listers I'll open myself up to going a bit bigger. 
 I was initially focused on getting "the smallest boat I can live with" - 
thinking it would save me money, but I realize that I could end up with a boat 
that is too small to enjoy.  I'll also focus more on boat condition rather than 
size -- repairs on an older boat can easily add up to more than the cost of the 
boat.

Last I also had a good discussion that has me being less threatened by A4's.  I 
gather they can be quieter and smoother than a diesel.  Again, I'll have to get 
on a couple similar sized boats and hear/feel the difference.

I'm sure I'll be looking for more advice as it goes forwards,

Mark


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  Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 30/05/2013 9:49 PM, Knowles Rich wrote:
> Hmm. Good list, but... If one is prone to indecision and second guessing, 
> this simply adds to the huge pile of considerations to ponder before you can 
> go sailing. Perhaps better to decide on a popular make like C&C that will be 
> resellable, get a couple of knowledgeable friends you believe in, and go 
> looking for a decent local boat in the price range you can tolerate. Buy it, 
> go sailing, and learn from the experience. There are always bigger, better, 
> faster and fancier boats out there, but you won't really know what you 
> want/need until you have tried a couple. 
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
> 
> On 2013-05-30, at 21:26, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Nice list!
> 
> I might add PHRF, electronics, sail inventory, holding tank, pressure water, 
> hot water heater.
> 
> Joel
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 30, 2013, at 8:19 PM, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> One of my crew is looking for a boat, his first.  I sent him a list of 
>> things to consider.  Here's most of them.
>> 
>> Bridge clearance- friend of mine has a nice big boat that can't get under 
>> several critical bridges leading to some prime sailing.  Touche' is even too 
>> tall to get under some bridges where we sail
>> How are the shrouds attached?  Most C&C's carry the shroud load to the hull. 
>>  Many boats carry the load to a bulkhead.  I don't like that.
>> Keel - fin, bulb, shoal, wing, full, centerboard, dagger board
>> Anchor locker on foredeck?
>> Fold down, pedestal or mast dinette table
>> Split lower shrouds vs inline shrouds
>> Straight vs swept back spreaders?
>> Baby stay?
>> Diesel vs gas?
>> Folding or fixed prop?
>> Head?  Shower?
>> Tiller vs wheel?
>> Propane stove?
>> Mast head vs fractional?  If I was looking for a race boat today, I'd go 
>> fractional
>> Traveler location?  End boom, bridgedeck, cabintop?
>> Big cockpit for entertaining?
>> Straight drive vs V-drive?
>> Fiberglass vs holly/teak sole?
>> Opening ports?
>> Sugar scoop transom, stern ladder, opening
>> Fiberglass headliner vs vinyl headliner
>> 
>> The list goes on and on.
>> 
>> When I was shopping for my first boat, I was pretty ignorant.  I wanted a 
>> wheel, diesel and shower.  Result?  First boat - 0 for 3.  Second boat had a 
>> wheel.  :)
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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