>> ...if I turned the wheel that aggressively on my 35 I feel certain she would 
>> go up, now I have to try that to find out for sure and ruin a perfectly nice 
>> beat someday. <<

A few years back racing Calypso double-handed in a fully crewed C/R fleet we 
found the point at which the mainsail overcame the rudder.  The wind was brisk 
enough for Calypso to be fully powered up, full mainsail and heavy #1 (150%).

Short tacking the Bainbridge Island shore to stay out of adverse current, on 
Port we planned to duck a slightly smaller Stbd tacker.  Calypso's co-owner, 
Michael was driving, I was trimming both sails.  As we bore off I had a little 
difficulty in easing the main about the time a gust rolled through.  Calypso 
heeled enough to stall the rudder.  The mainsail took over control and the boat 
began to round up to windward.

I clearly recall the wide eyes in the cockpit of the Stbd tacker as 24,000lbs 
of angry, foaming at the mouth C&C was pointed right at them.  Fortunately I 
got the main eased and Michael pumped the rudder several time to re-establish 
flow and control in time to pass safely astern of the Stbd tacker.  After that 
close call we throttled back a little and left more space for crossing.

Dwight, I recommend practicing this type of windward round up to learn how your 
35 MKII handles at the edge of control before a close crossing situation 
develops.  Having your race crew part of the practice to get the feel of a 
rudder stall and quick rotation to windward.  Having some practice will help 
them concentrate on a quick recovery when time is tight.  It can be expensive 
if a crew freezes instead of easing a sheet.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video

Blue was close hauled with lots of power, what looks like an uncoordinated crew 
and in close quarters. She was give way boat and it looks to me like she was 
barging the line hell bent to get across inside of what looks like the 
committee boat, and ahead and to windward of the fleet.   If she went up hard 
she either had to tack away or risk ramming what I think is the committee boat. 
 I can't tell if the leeward boat had room to fall off safely to avoid 
collision with blue without making a collision with the boat below her, looks 
like she was being taken up too. I heard now up now up now up now up so someone 
on Blue knew they were being taken up but I don't think the helmsman or the 
crew acted soon enough or fast enough.  The helmsman's effort to steer up 
seemed ineffective, not much of a rudder on that boat if you ask me.  The 
mainsail trimmer tensioned for more close hauled course and looks like the jib 
trimmer did the same...seems like the crew did not know how to sail that boat 
under those conditions in close quarters...they did not appear to know what to 
expect from the boat and the crew...if I turned the wheel that aggressively on 
my 35 I feel certain she would go up, now I have to try that to find out for 
sure and ruin a perfectly nice beat some day.  Haven't raced in a while... what 
is in the rule about barging

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

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