Penniless has hot water and an extendable faucet with shower nozzle in the
head. There is a teak grate, under which there is a shallow pan (may be part
of the inner liner) with a water pick up laying in it. Its hose goes to a
sump pump under the sink which dumps the water overboard. I think it would
not be a big problem to drain the pan into the bilge. I would put a screen
on the drain, so you don't get 'stuff' into the bilge. The door to the cabin
from the head on my boat has a small sill at the bottom, I didn't notice
that on the one you are looking at - that keeps the water from going out to
the cabin sole. As you have pressure water, I don't see any difficulty in
changing the faucet and putting in a drain. And, you could use a sun shower
for your hot water when it is needed.
Self tailing is OK, but if you have an autopilot, two hands on the winch is
not a problem.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30
Gary,
Thanks for the info. I didn't see that the winches were not
self-tailing -- that makes single handing a bit more challenging.
Only a depth meter - no speed or wind. And yes, that is an autopilot near
the wheel.
You have a shower in your boat - does the head just drain into the bilge
and pump out from there? This boat says it has a shower in the cockpit.
I'm not looking to race the boat, more just cruising. Inboard shower
would be nice, but infrequent use (I'd want hot water for that).
Mark
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
On 23/03/2013 1:49 PM, Gary Nylander wrote:
Looking at the boat and comparing it with my 1980 version: that one is
about as stock from the factory you can get - it doesn't have a wind
instrument, but the display on the bulkhead could be a double - speed and
depth - or just depth. The display near the wheel is probably for the
autopilot.
If you are looking for a cruising boat, this is pretty good - the engine
upgrade, the head upgrade, the updates for the fuel tank, the radar, the
dodger, etc will make it pretty useful for that purpose.
For racing, that is another topic. No self tailors, no jib tracks (for
the 'stock' boat, they used snatch blocks which hooked through the toe
rail), no relocated traveler - it looks like someone moved the halyard
winches to the cockpit area - my guess is there is no spinnaker halyard
or mast track -
In short, this boat looks a lot like mine did when I bought it 20 years
ago! Bt mine didn't have the upgrades for the head and radar....this one
still has the little teak box at the base of the mast for winch handles.
I think with about $100 for covers or scoops for the vent holes in the
transom, and a clean up of the dripping butyl in the cabinets (mine is
still dripping also), you could go sailing. I think the clips on the
wiring might be for an instrument (gps) which is not on the boat. I think
the carpet is to cover the teak and holly - maybe it's not so pretty,
maybe he's trying to save it. This boat appears to have it, some didn't.
And... it looks well cared for. The wiring looks very original and could
use some attention - current rules suggest the 12v and 120v panels be
located apart from each other - it doesn't appear there is a battery
charger, but there is pressure water, no water heater.
I don't think there is a problem with the chainplates. My boat has the
propane stove and a shower setup in the head - that one doesn't appear to
have either (shower outside or at the marina).
Overall it looks good.
Gary Nylander
#593
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar"
<drbod...@accesswave.ca>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30
I tried to upload some photos via email - but they were too big, so I've
loaded all the photos at full resolution into DropBox.
Feel free to take a look and let me know what you think.
https://plus.google.com/photos/110611663409773219866/albums/5858368414427128193?authkey=CKGJ-8HGzvSpJg
Here's the posting on YachtWorld
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/C%26c-30-Sloop-2526936/Greenport/NY/United-States
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The boat looks quite good. Interior looks great - wood clean, chain
plates don't show any obvious sign of water intrusion, nice cushions.
(Closer zoom on one chain plate - looks rough?? Maybe not so good?)
Carpet on sole is a bit odd - it looks from one photo like there is a
teak-holly floor underneath? Maybe in need of re-finishing.
Engine and wiring look good. Engine looks brand new (was apparently new
in 2000).
Roller furler looks ancient. And looks to have a warp high up in the
foil.
Any instruments? I see the radar and the auto pilot - but what about
depth, speed, wind? There is a single box covered next to the
companionway - could that contain all?
Few sections of the outer rail look dinged up - not too bad but will
need a bit of work.
The one section of deck almost looks like its delaminating? Soft? Or is
that just bad surface crazing? Also a "crack" in upper right of photo.
No sign of jib sheet block tracks - or am I missing something? I'd
expect a boat like this to have them.
Did you see anything concerning that I'm missing? Any specific questions
for broker?
I'm tempted to make an offer on the boat, pending a survey of course.
Thoughts on what kind of offer?
Mark
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
On 22/03/2013 6:51 PM, Mark Bodnar wrote:
Just got a message back from the contact on SailNet.
He went to check out the boat for me today. Uploaded a ton of photos
apparently (I'll need to get home so I can check them out - I'll post a
couple if people are interested).
His comment -
The boat is really quite nice, actually amazing for a 34 year old boat!
Barry
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Sounds encouraging. I'll be looking closely at the photos and will have
to decide on making an offer.
Waiting to hear back from insurance broker on insurance cost.
Of course then I have to decide how much to offer. He's asking $15900.
Looking at all the avail boats the price is at the low end and the
appearance/gear etc look excellent. Doubt I can knock a lot off the
price, but maybe try $14000??? Of course dependent on a clear survey
inc engine and rigging.
Mark
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc. D.C. FCCPOR(c)
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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your fear of failure.”
Bill Cosby
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