If you want security, don't do it yourself. I do not mean this as an insult as I follow the exact same advice. Security is neither easy nor trivial.
As for hardcore, don't fall for the hype, Ubuntu can satisfy those "hard core" cravings for years to come. @TekBudda, FOG for imaging, Openfiler/Freenas for GUI NAS. Desktop is well covered these days. On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Stuart Gilmour <stu...@stuartgilmour.com> wrote: > @TekBudda > > That would be awesome. When and where? > > > On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:38 PM, TekBudda wrote: > >> Hey....I have some projects to do like setting up a new server at home, >> setting up an imaging solution, A NAS & a desktop. Want to come over & >> help? ;-) >> >> >> >> On 9/6/2011 4:29 PM, Stuart Gilmour wrote: >>> Thanks for all the help! >>> >>> I have already installed Ubuntu, but am thinking about installing a "hard >>> core" distro just so I can set everything myself. I am toying with the LFS >>> idea but looks a little outta me league. I learn better doing stuff hands >>> on so I think that taking on this endeavor will be helpful. >>> >>> Anyway correct me if I am wrong - a person would want to create the own >>> distro of linux for the following of reasons : >>> >>> security and size? >>> >>> is that all? >>> >>> Thanks and I will try and make it to tomorrows meeting. >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Shawn Grover wrote: >>> >>>> While Greg's response is a good starting point, the question is where you >>>> currently see yourself in terms of Linux (and general computer) skill. >>>> >>>> If you are not familiar with lower level system admin type tasks (yet), >>>> you may want to simply start with learning the environment. Ubuntu is a >>>> relatively good distribution to get your feet wet without being >>>> overwhelmed by the depth of the topic. >>>> >>>> If you are a little more skilled/knowledgeable, Then Greg's links will >>>> probably make sense to you. Also, you might consider looking at the "hard >>>> core" distro's - Slackware, Gentoo, Linux From Scratch, etc. These distros >>>> need you to setup everything yourself, which means you get very familiar >>>> with the system - from compiling only what you need to using the system >>>> for it's intended purpose. Gentoo is the one I went to that taught me >>>> almost everything I know about Linux. The documentation was very good and >>>> thorough. The LFS book was written by a local fellow... >>>> >>>> Regarding distros, applications, and choices.... Think about it like >>>> buying a car. You can make use of any car, but some don't feel right, >>>> some feel like they are too much, some have polish, while others are more >>>> about function than looks. You need to try a few out to see which ones >>>> work for you. Which one "clicks" with you. This might be Ubuntu, or Red >>>> Hat, or Debian, or Slackware, or something else entirely. >>>> >>>> One point - be careful to keep the desired task separate from the idea of >>>> the "Linux Desktop". Building a web server is similar regardless of the >>>> distro. Managing a Windows shared drive on Linux is similar regardless of >>>> the distro. Learn the concepts, and everything becomes much simpler. >>>> Usually. >>>> >>>> My top tips for using Linux. Use it. Don't be afraid to use Google. Or >>>> to ask for help. >>>> >>>> Welcome to the group. >>>> >>>> On 11-09-05 07:07 PM, Greg King wrote: >>>>> Simple question to which I think there are no simple answers, but I'll >>>>> take a stab at it. With Linux you will want to become somewhat familiar >>>>> with the command line and a basic text editor like vi or vim (emacs if >>>>> your so inclined, but the learning curve on it is rather large). This >>>>> will save you from many a crisis when the GUI interface isn't available. >>>>> I'd start with: >>>>> 1. a book on shell programming like "teach yourself shell programming in >>>>> 24 hours" - >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Shell-Programming-Hours/dp/0672323583/ref=dp_ob_title_bk >>>>> >>>>> 2. A book on Linux itself like "LPI Linux certification" >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1 >>>>> <http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1>#_ >>>>> 3. A book on open source network administration like >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1 >>>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1>#_ >>>>> (this one is a little dated but something similar would be good). >>>>> I have personally used all of the above resources and found them useful. >>>>> YMMV. >>>>> Play with a few distros, at least one RPM based like RedHat and one >>>>> Debian based like Ubuntu and learn the software management tools. Play >>>>> with user interfaces Gnome, KDE and a lightweight GUI like xfce. Here >>>>> virtual machines (VMs) are your friend. I use VMware server which is >>>>> free but somewhat old and has some issues, but there are others probably >>>>> as good or better. Buy a big multicore 8GB+ memory machine and load it >>>>> up with VMs - its all free as in no cost so the only limitation is your >>>>> ability to absorb the content. >>>>> There is a lot of information on Linux on the internet (an >>>>> understatment) so just google Linux + "your topic" and you will find >>>>> toms of information but beware that some of it will be out of date. The >>>>> Linux Documentation Project www.tldp.org <http://www.tldp.org/> is a >>>>> good place to start and each distro will have its own documentation and >>>>> release notes which are usually woth a browse, and man pages are your >>>>> friend too. >>>>> I hope that gives you some ideas. Good luck with your quest to learn >>>>> Linux. Taken in bite sized peices it can be a very reqarding experience. >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Stuart Gilmour <stu...@stuartgilmour.com> >>>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:07 pm >>>>> Subject: [clug-talk] n00b >>>>> To: clug-talk@clug.ca >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> My name is Stuart and I just started to learn linux. I was just >>>>>> wondering if anybody had any thoughts on where a good place to >>>>>> start would be. (books, links, courses in the calgary area) I >>>>>> have "googled" and read few a articles and lessons on the net >>>>>> but there is so much to choose from. PS I am interested in >>>>>> network administration. If that helps? >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy I found this group! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>>>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>>>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clug-talk mailing list >>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>> **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> clug-talk@clug.ca >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > clug-talk@clug.ca > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list clug-talk@clug.ca http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
