@TekBudda That would be awesome. When and where?
On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:38 PM, TekBudda wrote: > Hey....I have some projects to do like setting up a new server at home, > setting up an imaging solution, A NAS & a desktop. Want to come over & > help? ;-) > > > > On 9/6/2011 4:29 PM, Stuart Gilmour wrote: >> Thanks for all the help! >> >> I have already installed Ubuntu, but am thinking about installing a "hard >> core" distro just so I can set everything myself. I am toying with the LFS >> idea but looks a little outta me league. I learn better doing stuff hands on >> so I think that taking on this endeavor will be helpful. >> >> Anyway correct me if I am wrong - a person would want to create the own >> distro of linux for the following of reasons : >> >> security and size? >> >> is that all? >> >> Thanks and I will try and make it to tomorrows meeting. >> >> Stuart >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Shawn Grover wrote: >> >>> While Greg's response is a good starting point, the question is where you >>> currently see yourself in terms of Linux (and general computer) skill. >>> >>> If you are not familiar with lower level system admin type tasks (yet), you >>> may want to simply start with learning the environment. Ubuntu is a >>> relatively good distribution to get your feet wet without being overwhelmed >>> by the depth of the topic. >>> >>> If you are a little more skilled/knowledgeable, Then Greg's links will >>> probably make sense to you. Also, you might consider looking at the "hard >>> core" distro's - Slackware, Gentoo, Linux From Scratch, etc. These distros >>> need you to setup everything yourself, which means you get very familiar >>> with the system - from compiling only what you need to using the system for >>> it's intended purpose. Gentoo is the one I went to that taught me almost >>> everything I know about Linux. The documentation was very good and >>> thorough. The LFS book was written by a local fellow... >>> >>> Regarding distros, applications, and choices.... Think about it like buying >>> a car. You can make use of any car, but some don't feel right, some feel >>> like they are too much, some have polish, while others are more about >>> function than looks. You need to try a few out to see which ones work for >>> you. Which one "clicks" with you. This might be Ubuntu, or Red Hat, or >>> Debian, or Slackware, or something else entirely. >>> >>> One point - be careful to keep the desired task separate from the idea of >>> the "Linux Desktop". Building a web server is similar regardless of the >>> distro. Managing a Windows shared drive on Linux is similar regardless of >>> the distro. Learn the concepts, and everything becomes much simpler. >>> Usually. >>> >>> My top tips for using Linux. Use it. Don't be afraid to use Google. Or to >>> ask for help. >>> >>> Welcome to the group. >>> >>> On 11-09-05 07:07 PM, Greg King wrote: >>>> Simple question to which I think there are no simple answers, but I'll >>>> take a stab at it. With Linux you will want to become somewhat familiar >>>> with the command line and a basic text editor like vi or vim (emacs if >>>> your so inclined, but the learning curve on it is rather large). This >>>> will save you from many a crisis when the GUI interface isn't available. >>>> I'd start with: >>>> 1. a book on shell programming like "teach yourself shell programming in >>>> 24 hours" - >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Shell-Programming-Hours/dp/0672323583/ref=dp_ob_title_bk >>>> >>>> 2. A book on Linux itself like "LPI Linux certification" >>>> http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1 >>>> <http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1>#_ >>>> 3. A book on open source network administration like >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1 >>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1>#_ >>>> (this one is a little dated but something similar would be good). >>>> I have personally used all of the above resources and found them useful. >>>> YMMV. >>>> Play with a few distros, at least one RPM based like RedHat and one >>>> Debian based like Ubuntu and learn the software management tools. Play >>>> with user interfaces Gnome, KDE and a lightweight GUI like xfce. Here >>>> virtual machines (VMs) are your friend. I use VMware server which is >>>> free but somewhat old and has some issues, but there are others probably >>>> as good or better. Buy a big multicore 8GB+ memory machine and load it >>>> up with VMs - its all free as in no cost so the only limitation is your >>>> ability to absorb the content. >>>> There is a lot of information on Linux on the internet (an >>>> understatment) so just google Linux + "your topic" and you will find >>>> toms of information but beware that some of it will be out of date. The >>>> Linux Documentation Project www.tldp.org <http://www.tldp.org/> is a >>>> good place to start and each distro will have its own documentation and >>>> release notes which are usually woth a browse, and man pages are your >>>> friend too. >>>> I hope that gives you some ideas. Good luck with your quest to learn >>>> Linux. Taken in bite sized peices it can be a very reqarding experience. >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Stuart Gilmour <stu...@stuartgilmour.com> >>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:07 pm >>>> Subject: [clug-talk] n00b >>>> To: clug-talk@clug.ca >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> My name is Stuart and I just started to learn linux. I was just >>>>> wondering if anybody had any thoughts on where a good place to >>>>> start would be. (books, links, courses in the calgary area) I >>>>> have "googled" and read few a articles and lessons on the net >>>>> but there is so much to choose from. PS I am interested in >>>>> network administration. If that helps? >>>>> >>>>> Happy I found this group! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Stuart >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clug-talk mailing list >>> clug-talk@clug.ca >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>> **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> clug-talk@clug.ca >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > clug-talk@clug.ca > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list clug-talk@clug.ca http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying