Hey....I have some projects to do like setting up a new server at home,
setting up an imaging solution, A NAS & a desktop.  Want to come over &
help? ;-)



On 9/6/2011 4:29 PM, Stuart Gilmour wrote:
> Thanks for all the help! 
> 
> I have already installed Ubuntu, but am thinking about installing a "hard 
> core" distro just so I can set everything myself. I am toying with the LFS 
> idea but looks a little outta me league. I learn better doing stuff hands on 
> so I think that taking on this endeavor will be helpful. 
> 
> Anyway correct me if I am wrong -  a person would want to create the own 
> distro of linux for the following of reasons :
> 
> security and size?
> 
> is that all?
> 
> Thanks and I will try and make it to tomorrows meeting.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Shawn Grover wrote:
> 
>> While Greg's response is a good starting point, the question is where you 
>> currently see yourself in terms of Linux (and general computer) skill.
>>
>> If you are not familiar with lower level system admin type tasks (yet), you 
>> may want to simply start with learning the environment.  Ubuntu is a 
>> relatively good distribution to get your feet wet without being overwhelmed 
>> by the depth of the topic.
>>
>> If you are a little more skilled/knowledgeable,  Then Greg's links will 
>> probably make sense to you.  Also, you might consider looking at the "hard 
>> core" distro's - Slackware, Gentoo, Linux From Scratch, etc. These distros 
>> need you to setup everything yourself, which means you get very familiar 
>> with the system - from compiling only what you need to using the system for 
>> it's intended purpose.  Gentoo is the one I went to that taught me almost 
>> everything I know about Linux.  The documentation was very good and 
>> thorough.  The LFS book was written by a local fellow...
>>
>> Regarding distros, applications, and choices.... Think about it like buying 
>> a car.  You can make use of any car, but some don't feel right, some feel 
>> like they are too much, some have polish, while others are more about 
>> function than looks.  You need to try a few out to see which ones work for 
>> you.  Which one "clicks" with you.  This might be Ubuntu, or Red Hat, or 
>> Debian, or Slackware, or something else entirely.
>>
>> One point - be careful to keep the desired task separate from the idea of 
>> the "Linux Desktop".  Building a web server is similar regardless of the 
>> distro.  Managing a Windows shared drive on Linux is similar regardless of 
>> the distro.  Learn the concepts, and everything becomes much simpler.  
>> Usually.
>>
>> My top tips for using Linux.  Use it.  Don't be afraid to use Google. Or to 
>> ask for help.
>>
>> Welcome to the group.
>>
>> On 11-09-05 07:07 PM, Greg King wrote:
>>> Simple question to which I think there are no simple answers, but I'll
>>> take a stab at it. With Linux you will want to become somewhat familiar
>>> with the command line and a basic text editor like vi or vim (emacs if
>>> your so inclined, but the learning curve on it is rather large). This
>>> will save you from many a crisis when the GUI interface isn't available.
>>> I'd start with:
>>> 1. a book on shell programming like "teach yourself shell programming in
>>> 24 hours" -
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Shell-Programming-Hours/dp/0672323583/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
>>>
>>> 2. A book on Linux itself like "LPI Linux certification"
>>> http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1
>>> <http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1>#_
>>> 3. A book on open source network administration like
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1
>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1>#_
>>> (this one is a little dated but something similar would be good).
>>> I have personally used all of the above resources and found them useful.
>>> YMMV.
>>> Play with a few distros, at least one RPM based like RedHat and one
>>> Debian based like Ubuntu and learn the software management tools. Play
>>> with user interfaces Gnome, KDE and a lightweight GUI like xfce. Here
>>> virtual machines (VMs) are your friend. I use VMware server which is
>>> free but somewhat old and has some issues, but there are others probably
>>> as good or better. Buy a big multicore 8GB+ memory machine and load it
>>> up with VMs - its all free as in no cost so the only limitation is your
>>> ability to absorb the content.
>>> There is a lot of information on Linux on the internet (an
>>> understatment) so just google Linux + "your topic" and you will find
>>> toms of information but beware that some of it will be out of date. The
>>> Linux Documentation Project www.tldp.org <http://www.tldp.org/> is a
>>> good place to start and each distro will have its own documentation and
>>> release notes which are usually woth a browse, and man pages are your
>>> friend too.
>>> I hope that gives you some ideas. Good luck with your quest to learn
>>> Linux. Taken in bite sized peices it can be a very reqarding experience.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Stuart Gilmour <stu...@stuartgilmour.com>
>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:07 pm
>>> Subject: [clug-talk] n00b
>>> To: clug-talk@clug.ca
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> My name is Stuart and I just started to learn linux. I was just
>>>> wondering if anybody had any thoughts on where a good place to
>>>> start would be. (books, links, courses in the calgary area) I
>>>> have "googled" and read few a articles and lessons on the net
>>>> but there is so much to choose from. PS I am interested in
>>>> network administration. If that helps?
>>>>
>>>> Happy I found this group!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Stuart
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