Thanks for all the help! 

I have already installed Ubuntu, but am thinking about installing a "hard core" 
distro just so I can set everything myself. I am toying with the LFS idea but 
looks a little outta me league. I learn better doing stuff hands on so I think 
that taking on this endeavor will be helpful. 

Anyway correct me if I am wrong -  a person would want to create the own distro 
of linux for the following of reasons :

security and size?

is that all?

Thanks and I will try and make it to tomorrows meeting.

Stuart





On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Shawn Grover wrote:

> While Greg's response is a good starting point, the question is where you 
> currently see yourself in terms of Linux (and general computer) skill.
> 
> If you are not familiar with lower level system admin type tasks (yet), you 
> may want to simply start with learning the environment.  Ubuntu is a 
> relatively good distribution to get your feet wet without being overwhelmed 
> by the depth of the topic.
> 
> If you are a little more skilled/knowledgeable,  Then Greg's links will 
> probably make sense to you.  Also, you might consider looking at the "hard 
> core" distro's - Slackware, Gentoo, Linux From Scratch, etc. These distros 
> need you to setup everything yourself, which means you get very familiar with 
> the system - from compiling only what you need to using the system for it's 
> intended purpose.  Gentoo is the one I went to that taught me almost 
> everything I know about Linux.  The documentation was very good and thorough. 
>  The LFS book was written by a local fellow...
> 
> Regarding distros, applications, and choices.... Think about it like buying a 
> car.  You can make use of any car, but some don't feel right, some feel like 
> they are too much, some have polish, while others are more about function 
> than looks.  You need to try a few out to see which ones work for you.  Which 
> one "clicks" with you.  This might be Ubuntu, or Red Hat, or Debian, or 
> Slackware, or something else entirely.
> 
> One point - be careful to keep the desired task separate from the idea of the 
> "Linux Desktop".  Building a web server is similar regardless of the distro.  
> Managing a Windows shared drive on Linux is similar regardless of the distro. 
>  Learn the concepts, and everything becomes much simpler.  Usually.
> 
> My top tips for using Linux.  Use it.  Don't be afraid to use Google. Or to 
> ask for help.
> 
> Welcome to the group.
> 
> On 11-09-05 07:07 PM, Greg King wrote:
>> Simple question to which I think there are no simple answers, but I'll
>> take a stab at it. With Linux you will want to become somewhat familiar
>> with the command line and a basic text editor like vi or vim (emacs if
>> your so inclined, but the learning curve on it is rather large). This
>> will save you from many a crisis when the GUI interface isn't available.
>> I'd start with:
>> 1. a book on shell programming like "teach yourself shell programming in
>> 24 hours" -
>> http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Shell-Programming-Hours/dp/0672323583/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
>> 
>> 2. A book on Linux itself like "LPI Linux certification"
>> http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1
>> <http://www.amazon.com/LPI-Linux-Certification-Nutshell-OReilly/dp/0596804873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267679&sr=1-1>#_
>> 3. A book on open source network administration like
>> http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Prentice-Computer-Networking-Distributed/dp/0130462101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315267946&sr=1-1>#_
>> (this one is a little dated but something similar would be good).
>> I have personally used all of the above resources and found them useful.
>> YMMV.
>> Play with a few distros, at least one RPM based like RedHat and one
>> Debian based like Ubuntu and learn the software management tools. Play
>> with user interfaces Gnome, KDE and a lightweight GUI like xfce. Here
>> virtual machines (VMs) are your friend. I use VMware server which is
>> free but somewhat old and has some issues, but there are others probably
>> as good or better. Buy a big multicore 8GB+ memory machine and load it
>> up with VMs - its all free as in no cost so the only limitation is your
>> ability to absorb the content.
>> There is a lot of information on Linux on the internet (an
>> understatment) so just google Linux + "your topic" and you will find
>> toms of information but beware that some of it will be out of date. The
>> Linux Documentation Project www.tldp.org <http://www.tldp.org/> is a
>> good place to start and each distro will have its own documentation and
>> release notes which are usually woth a browse, and man pages are your
>> friend too.
>> I hope that gives you some ideas. Good luck with your quest to learn
>> Linux. Taken in bite sized peices it can be a very reqarding experience.
>> 
>> Greg
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Stuart Gilmour <stu...@stuartgilmour.com>
>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:07 pm
>> Subject: [clug-talk] n00b
>> To: clug-talk@clug.ca
>> 
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > My name is Stuart and I just started to learn linux. I was just
>> > wondering if anybody had any thoughts on where a good place to
>> > start would be. (books, links, courses in the calgary area) I
>> > have "googled" and read few a articles and lessons on the net
>> > but there is so much to choose from. PS I am interested in
>> > network administration. If that helps?
>> >
>> > Happy I found this group!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Stuart
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