One other thing I forgit to mention was when the phone uses the Webtop
software (think thats what it is called).  Essentially if you are
connected via any of the docks, you can have the phone displayed on
your desktop or the lapdock & you can manage the phone from their.
That means that even using the standard dock you should be able to
connect the phone to your desktop & treat it like a connected computer
& manage it through your desktop.  I could be wrong on this though
so...

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/CA-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/WEBTOP/Meet-WEBTOP

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:26 AM,  <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
> You confirm my thoughts.
>
> Interesting article in Slashdot and they tend to trash motoblur.  I was a 
> little surprised at that.  However maybe they are thinking of performance on 
> a machine without the dual cores.
>
> The plan I was looking at is the same as yours.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:34:57AM -0600, TekBudda wrote:
>> My wife & I just picked up Atrix's recently & we have been pretty
>> happy with them...save the battery life.  Not the best, but can last
>> the whole day or so on a charge.
>>
>> I researched various options before slapping the money down & what
>> really sold me on the Atrix was the lapdock.  In the past when I have
>> had PDA's I always seemed to have the external keyboard as
>> well...mostly because of my fat fingers.  As well, I currently have a
>> fist gen netbook (4gb EeePC) & was looking at possibly getting a newer
>> one for the increased specs & greater functionality offered.  Had I
>> purchased a netbook, I would still have needed to get a phone to
>> provide tethering.  To me, the Atrix & the lapdock offer that perfect
>> mix for my needs.  It gives me the portability of a netbook, with the
>> power of a half decent laptop.  I do have a regular sized laptop, but
>> this combo is more compact & quicker to make mobile.
>>
>> I haven't purchased the lapdock yet, but have got to physically hold
>> one & talked to at least one person who has it & they like it.  They
>> have compared the performance to a entry level'ish laptop.  The other
>> docks are pretty nice as well.  The multimedia dock I believe has a
>> remoe so that you can connect it up to your TV & play things right
>> from the phone.  The otehr dock is just your standard dock.  All of
>> the (including the phone) seem to have a fairly solid build & the
>> prices aren't that unreasonable.
>>
>> The plan we have is $55/month & includes free unlimited voice video &
>> picture text, 200 minutes, free evenings & weekends after 6, a Fab 10
>> (free calls to any 10 numbers of any provider in Canada) & 1 GB of
>> data.  I believe we have the minutes shared between our phones as
>> well.  They also threw in our voice mai & call display as well &
>> didn't charge the sodomy fee.  Whne I priced a plan with similar specs
>> it was around $85...so all in all I think we got a good deal.
>> Oh...they were also offering a $75 credit on a $100 phone, making them
>> $25.  If you are doing a new activation though, it looks like you can
>> get the phone for free.  Lisa was looking at an iPhone, but changed
>> her mind based mostly on the price of crapple apps, but I think also
>> so that we can share accessories & the expandability.
>>
>> Her sister is also looking at the atrix as well & considering an
>> iPhone.  She is currently on Screwus (Telus) but is considering making
>> the switch for the deal we got & possibly the Atrix.  All in all a
>> great phone.  The screen is bright wide & just awesome.  Lisa showed
>> hers at work & the iClones were all jealous.  I was showing mine to a
>> boss today & he was impressed also by the dual-core speed, the
>> brightness, & overall feel & functionality.
>>
>> I am using it mostly as a phone, but find myself using it more for
>> facebooking (also part of the deal...unlimited social networking),
>> keeping track of items, managing my information, etc.  I see the
>> funtionality expanding as I learn t do more with it & make the
>> appropriate investments in what I need to make it do what I want it to
>> do.  I seem it evolving from a mostly fun-tertainment device right now
>> to much more business functionality.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:29 AM,  <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
>> > I _think_ a smart phone is what I need.  I have considered just using a 
>> > netbook.
>> >
>> > I'm now in the real estate property services area.  When I'm at a property 
>> > I need to take pictures and I need to make notes.  The easiest way I can 
>> > think of would be voice->text with the data being stored in a file.  I 
>> > don't really need the G3 data capabilities for that.  However I would like 
>> > to send and receive emails.  Currently my emails arrive in my servers and 
>> > I use ssh.  If I install ssh in the phone then I cna access them.
>> >
>> > What I really like about the Motorola Atrix is that it has HDMNI and USB 
>> > and a nice docking station so it can drive a real KB and mouse and 
>> > display... which I can mount in the vehicle.  Thus I have a mobile office.
>> >
>> > Back in my office I can sycn it (tether as you say).  But I really don't 
>> > think I'll need to do much of that in the field.
>> >
>> > What I will need to do is xmit log notes and pics to my son's office.  I 
>> > can do this via two (2) methods.  1) Use the G3 system and 2) find a WiFi 
>> > hot spot.
>> >
>> > There are times when a GPS tied into maps would be useful.  In this area 
>> > there is a different solution I would like to find.  I expect to be in the 
>> > dessert some day in China 100's of miles from cell towers and I would like 
>> > to pick up GPS coords as in Lat Long.  These need to end up in my notes 
>> > files so that if we find something interesting and want to take pictures 
>> > and make notes that the lat long has been automatically recorded.
>> >
>> > Finally I think it might be useful to be able to access the servers but 
>> > again WiFi is likely good enough.
>> >
>> > The main purpose is a PDA and the phone side of things is a bonus.
>> >
>> > What in fact would work is pure data so I can just send an email out and 
>> > receive them.  IE - a netbook will do the job.  But its pretty akward as a 
>> > camera.  I could use a mic and Skype.
>> >
>> > What I am left with is the idea that the Atrix will do everything.
>> >
>> > I did some checking and I'm left with the impression Google thinks we 
>> > should program it in Java.  Persomally I really prefer C/C++.  I think 
>> > maybe it can do either.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:54:39PM -0600, Neil B wrote:
>> >> Is your requirements for an actual phone/PDA (access to mail and calendar
>> >> but not primary interface) or do you want a "modem" that you can use a
>> >> netbook (for example) to use as the interface?
>> >>
>> >> I have an HTC Hero from Telus that runs Android. I have not rooted it
>> >> because I have not had the need to do so to perform the necessary
>> >> requirements I wanted. This was the ability to use the built in GPS, use 
>> >> the
>> >> camera, create and use my own ring tones, take pictures that can be 
>> >> accessed
>> >> from the device via a USB cable, use it as a phone, have a working caller
>> >> ID, access a MS exchange server (for work), access my personal
>> >> email/calendar (currently hosted on Google) - both of which is mostly used
>> >> to receive the emails moreso than to actually reply to those emails, have 
>> >> an
>> >> automated backup of my contacts hosted away from the phone, send SMS
>> >> messages, and use various other social media/network interfaces. I also 
>> >> have
>> >> the ability to tether my pc (or netbook) to my phone to provide a data
>> >> connection and use the data allocation I have within my plan.
>> >>
>> >> All of this rambling is leading to the point that is a smart phone the
>> >> ultimate or right device you want to be using for your tasks? Just 
>> >> because a
>> >> device can perform a task does not mean you want to be using it to perform
>> >> that task on a regular bases. Smart phones are good for some tasks if you
>> >> need access in an emergency. Other times it is best to be working on a 
>> >> real
>> >> pc with a familiar interface (hardware and software).
>> >>
>> >> Cheers!
>> >>
>> >> ~Neil
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:20 PM, <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It is.  I know I want to install some deamons to upload files to my 
>> >> > servers
>> >> > and I'll want ssh and bash and other than this I don't know.  I'll be
>> >> > looking for an emulator which can run under probably Ubuntu and KDE
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:17:29PM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote:
>> >> > > In my experience, you do not need root access to develop your own app
>> >> > > and use it on your (Android) phone. Is that what you were asking
>> >> > > about?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM,  <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
>> >> > > > It looks to me the best is the Motorola Atrix which with a 3 year
>> >> > contract from Bell is 0 down as I recall + $50 fpr voice and data.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > What about getting root access?  Why should this void the warrenty? 
>> >> > > >  Is
>> >> > there some procedure one needs to go through to become a developer?
>> >> > > >
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