I meant map data.  The lat long comes from the calculations done
locally on the device.  The lat/long is pretty useless without a map
to go with them.

The GPS application on my phone will not even start until I turn on
the data functionality (I usually keep it off to keep my usage low).

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:35 PM, John Jardine <john_e_jard...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> Do you mean GPS data or "map" data?  GPS should be coming from
> satellites.Lat/Long is often (always?) available from the cells.
>
>
> On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:03 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
>> Most of the GPS data is streamed over your data connection.  It sounds
>> like you really need a stand alone GPS unit.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:57 PM,  <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > WInd says they do not support Chestermere and I expect to be spending a 
>> > lot of time in Chestermere.  If this is not correct please advise.
>> >
>> > WHat I need most is the PDA capability.  I need to take pictures, record 
>> > notes.
>> >
>> > I do not think I even need data capabilty but I may need to add it.  I'm 
>> > looking for wifi and straight voice usage from Chestermere to Calgary and 
>> > that is about it.
>> >
>> > Later I might be in China in the boonies so GPS is of great value if it 
>> > will work in China and I'm thinking GPS will be valuable here in Calgary 
>> > as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 02:51:37PM -0600, John E. jardine wrote:
>> >> Nothing is ever simple...
>> >>
>> >> Contract + subsidized (and locked) phone or no contract?
>> >> Do you spend much time outside of Calgary?
>> >> Do you make many long distance calls?
>> >> Do you need it to work outside of Canada?
>> >>
>> >> I use my own phone (N900) rogers for one phone and roam the world with it.
>> >> For unlimited local and long distance service I'm picking up a Wind phone 
>> >> this week and canceling my Telus wireline phone.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original message -----
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm planning on getting a smart phone (I don't have a cell phone now)
>> >> > and I'm wondering what people might recomend looking ato.
>> >> >
>> >> > I need GPS where there is no cell phone coverage.
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to program it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll want ssh immediatly.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think I'll need all that many minutes.
>> >> >
>> >> > What would be the cheapest way to go for the cell services and the best
>> >> > way to go as in PDA services on the phone itself?
>> >> >
>> >> > Two that I have looked at are the apple iPhone but I need to jail break
>> >> > it AFAIK and a Motorola ATRIX 4G.
>> >> >
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