You confirm my thoughts.

Interesting article in Slashdot and they tend to trash motoblur.  I was a 
little surprised at that.  However maybe they are thinking of performance on a 
machine without the dual cores.

The plan I was looking at is the same as yours.


On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:34:57AM -0600, TekBudda wrote:
> My wife & I just picked up Atrix's recently & we have been pretty
> happy with them...save the battery life.  Not the best, but can last
> the whole day or so on a charge.
> 
> I researched various options before slapping the money down & what
> really sold me on the Atrix was the lapdock.  In the past when I have
> had PDA's I always seemed to have the external keyboard as
> well...mostly because of my fat fingers.  As well, I currently have a
> fist gen netbook (4gb EeePC) & was looking at possibly getting a newer
> one for the increased specs & greater functionality offered.  Had I
> purchased a netbook, I would still have needed to get a phone to
> provide tethering.  To me, the Atrix & the lapdock offer that perfect
> mix for my needs.  It gives me the portability of a netbook, with the
> power of a half decent laptop.  I do have a regular sized laptop, but
> this combo is more compact & quicker to make mobile.
> 
> I haven't purchased the lapdock yet, but have got to physically hold
> one & talked to at least one person who has it & they like it.  They
> have compared the performance to a entry level'ish laptop.  The other
> docks are pretty nice as well.  The multimedia dock I believe has a
> remoe so that you can connect it up to your TV & play things right
> from the phone.  The otehr dock is just your standard dock.  All of
> the (including the phone) seem to have a fairly solid build & the
> prices aren't that unreasonable.
> 
> The plan we have is $55/month & includes free unlimited voice video &
> picture text, 200 minutes, free evenings & weekends after 6, a Fab 10
> (free calls to any 10 numbers of any provider in Canada) & 1 GB of
> data.  I believe we have the minutes shared between our phones as
> well.  They also threw in our voice mai & call display as well &
> didn't charge the sodomy fee.  Whne I priced a plan with similar specs
> it was around $85...so all in all I think we got a good deal.
> Oh...they were also offering a $75 credit on a $100 phone, making them
> $25.  If you are doing a new activation though, it looks like you can
> get the phone for free.  Lisa was looking at an iPhone, but changed
> her mind based mostly on the price of crapple apps, but I think also
> so that we can share accessories & the expandability.
> 
> Her sister is also looking at the atrix as well & considering an
> iPhone.  She is currently on Screwus (Telus) but is considering making
> the switch for the deal we got & possibly the Atrix.  All in all a
> great phone.  The screen is bright wide & just awesome.  Lisa showed
> hers at work & the iClones were all jealous.  I was showing mine to a
> boss today & he was impressed also by the dual-core speed, the
> brightness, & overall feel & functionality.
> 
> I am using it mostly as a phone, but find myself using it more for
> facebooking (also part of the deal...unlimited social networking),
> keeping track of items, managing my information, etc.  I see the
> funtionality expanding as I learn t do more with it & make the
> appropriate investments in what I need to make it do what I want it to
> do.  I seem it evolving from a mostly fun-tertainment device right now
> to much more business functionality.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:29 AM,  <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
> > I _think_ a smart phone is what I need.  I have considered just using a 
> > netbook.
> >
> > I'm now in the real estate property services area.  When I'm at a property 
> > I need to take pictures and I need to make notes.  The easiest way I can 
> > think of would be voice->text with the data being stored in a file.  I 
> > don't really need the G3 data capabilities for that.  However I would like 
> > to send and receive emails.  Currently my emails arrive in my servers and I 
> > use ssh.  If I install ssh in the phone then I cna access them.
> >
> > What I really like about the Motorola Atrix is that it has HDMNI and USB 
> > and a nice docking station so it can drive a real KB and mouse and 
> > display... which I can mount in the vehicle.  Thus I have a mobile office.
> >
> > Back in my office I can sycn it (tether as you say).  But I really don't 
> > think I'll need to do much of that in the field.
> >
> > What I will need to do is xmit log notes and pics to my son's office.  I 
> > can do this via two (2) methods.  1) Use the G3 system and 2) find a WiFi 
> > hot spot.
> >
> > There are times when a GPS tied into maps would be useful.  In this area 
> > there is a different solution I would like to find.  I expect to be in the 
> > dessert some day in China 100's of miles from cell towers and I would like 
> > to pick up GPS coords as in Lat Long.  These need to end up in my notes 
> > files so that if we find something interesting and want to take pictures 
> > and make notes that the lat long has been automatically recorded.
> >
> > Finally I think it might be useful to be able to access the servers but 
> > again WiFi is likely good enough.
> >
> > The main purpose is a PDA and the phone side of things is a bonus.
> >
> > What in fact would work is pure data so I can just send an email out and 
> > receive them.  IE - a netbook will do the job.  But its pretty akward as a 
> > camera.  I could use a mic and Skype.
> >
> > What I am left with is the idea that the Atrix will do everything.
> >
> > I did some checking and I'm left with the impression Google thinks we 
> > should program it in Java.  Persomally I really prefer C/C++.  I think 
> > maybe it can do either.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:54:39PM -0600, Neil B wrote:
> >> Is your requirements for an actual phone/PDA (access to mail and calendar
> >> but not primary interface) or do you want a "modem" that you can use a
> >> netbook (for example) to use as the interface?
> >>
> >> I have an HTC Hero from Telus that runs Android. I have not rooted it
> >> because I have not had the need to do so to perform the necessary
> >> requirements I wanted. This was the ability to use the built in GPS, use 
> >> the
> >> camera, create and use my own ring tones, take pictures that can be 
> >> accessed
> >> from the device via a USB cable, use it as a phone, have a working caller
> >> ID, access a MS exchange server (for work), access my personal
> >> email/calendar (currently hosted on Google) - both of which is mostly used
> >> to receive the emails moreso than to actually reply to those emails, have 
> >> an
> >> automated backup of my contacts hosted away from the phone, send SMS
> >> messages, and use various other social media/network interfaces. I also 
> >> have
> >> the ability to tether my pc (or netbook) to my phone to provide a data
> >> connection and use the data allocation I have within my plan.
> >>
> >> All of this rambling is leading to the point that is a smart phone the
> >> ultimate or right device you want to be using for your tasks? Just because 
> >> a
> >> device can perform a task does not mean you want to be using it to perform
> >> that task on a regular bases. Smart phones are good for some tasks if you
> >> need access in an emergency. Other times it is best to be working on a real
> >> pc with a familiar interface (hardware and software).
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> ~Neil
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:20 PM, <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It is.  I know I want to install some deamons to upload files to my 
> >> > servers
> >> > and I'll want ssh and bash and other than this I don't know.  I'll be
> >> > looking for an emulator which can run under probably Ubuntu and KDE
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:17:29PM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote:
> >> > > In my experience, you do not need root access to develop your own app
> >> > > and use it on your (Android) phone. Is that what you were asking
> >> > > about?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM,  <t...@terralogic.net> wrote:
> >> > > > It looks to me the best is the Motorola Atrix which with a 3 year
> >> > contract from Bell is 0 down as I recall + $50 fpr voice and data.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What about getting root access?  Why should this void the warrenty?  
> >> > > > Is
> >> > there some procedure one needs to go through to become a developer?
> >> > > >
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