Ah!  Small screen and so forth.

This is where the Motorola Atrix shines.  It support USB KB/mouse and has HDMI 
outputs so it support a full size monitor.  Bell at Northland mall showed me 
the $60 connector... which has an RJ45 (so I'm told) on the back as well and 
its a USB hub.  They told me it needs a wall wart and I asked if they have same 
for a 12V car system and they said yes.

They were using it to play movies on a big TV screen.  

With the hub and ethernet plug in a USB stick or HDD and with your normal 
KB/Mouse and monitor then Bob's your uncle!

What is really turning me off is hearing about a fudged boot loader and 
motoblur.

That is enough for me to look elsewhere.

I don't own a cell phone now.  But my work is changing and now I am getting to 
the point where I need a mobile office.  However maybe I can go real cheap and 
get a "dumb" cell phone and a cheap $15 / month contract and get a netbook (I 
don't even own a laptop and my only netbook is a nice little web server!) and 
I'll bet for the number of times I need to pick up an email or send one that I 
can probably go over to Tim Horton's for a coffee and use their hot spot!

So here is a question.  How hard is it to blow the Motorola crapola away and 
install just the native Google Android stack?  

Or... how long until we have the same MicroSD, HDMI, USB, dual core, 16GB on 
board plus 1GB ram in something which the manufacturer hasn't piddled with?

Maybe I can wait?

I did look at the Nexus S and it does look good but I think having the microSD 
is a real big advantage.


At this point really all I need is the high end digital camera and having a way 
to log notes in the field is really attractive.  

As for carriers?  I'm out at chestermere.  I find Wind and a few others say 
they don't have coverage there.  



On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:50:29AM -0600, Martin Glazer wrote:
> +1 for the Nexus S
> 
> bought one in Jan at Best Buy in USA and I'm using it on the Wind 
> network ($40/mth unlimited calling, unlimited data). I am very happy 
> with Android (2.3) and the Nexus S so far. It works best with a Google 
> account and so I have setup syncing for my calendar and contacts with 
> Thunderbird and using imap for mail.
> 
> It also allows one to install third party apps not from Google's app 
> store, so you are not completely tied in to what is offered. We are in 
> the process of developing our own app, so this worked out perfectly.
> 
> One of the best things I like is it's ability to act as a WiFi hotspot - 
> I've used this a few times when internet hasn't been available at a 
> client or even stuck on the Deerfoot in traffic with my son on his ipod 
> wirelessly surfing.
> 
> The only negative so far is the limited memory - only 16GB and no way to 
> expand, although I haven't reached that point yet.
> 
> 
> This in contrast to a recent purchase of an iPad 2 - this is my first 
> apple product and it feels very restrictive. The thing I do like though 
> is the ability to do remote ssh support reasonably well as compared to 
> the Nexus S small screen size and limited keyboard.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> On 06/03/2011 10:53 AM, Shawn wrote:
> > I'm surprised no one has suggested the Google/Samsung Nexus S yet.  It 
> > is an unlocked phone, running the most recent stable version of 
> > Android.  It is a world phone as well - just pick up a SIM when you 
> > are overseas to avoid roaming charges.
> >
> > When I first got mine, I was "playing" with it lots, so my battery 
> > life was pretty off.  But, after satisfying my curiosity and not 
> > having the display active almost 24/7, AND after an update (that the 
> > phone told me about, and provided a convenient download/install), my 
> > battery life is pretty good - about 3 days between charges.  2 Days if 
> > I have bluetooth/wifi/gps turned on.
> >
> > Because it is an unlocked Android phone, writing code for it should be 
> > a no-brainer.  It has GPS navigation and maps built in by default.  
> > I've only played with the GPS a little and noted that it sometimes 
> > takes a long time to get a lock on the satellites.
> >
> > I found that the Nexus S was very reasonably priced - I bought mine 
> > outright at $499.   I'm on a rogers plan, but the phone will work with 
> > just about any GSM based provider.  Buying the phone outright means 
> > you get to dictate the contract terms for your service.  i.e. you can 
> > ask for month to month service because they are not recovering the 
> > cost of a phone.
> >
> > You can do more research here:
> > http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=880
> >
> > If you navigate up in that site, you can find a forum for almost every 
> > phone, where you can do even more research.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11-06-02 03:19 PM, t...@terralogic.net wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm planning on getting a smart phone (I don't have a cell phone now) 
> >> and I'm wondering what people might recomend looking ato.
> >>
> >> I need GPS where there is no cell phone coverage.
> >>
> >> I want to program it.
> >>
> >> I'll want ssh immediatly.
> >>
> >> I don't think I'll need all that many minutes.
> >>
> >> What would be the cheapest way to go for the cell services and the 
> >> best way to go as in PDA services on the phone itself?
> >>
> >> Two that I have looked at are the apple iPhone but I need to jail 
> >> break it AFAIK and a Motorola ATRIX 4G.
> >>
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