On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Jessica Tomechak <jessica.tomec...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 01:01 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
>> 
>>> While this is the first time a proposal was made public, I had to
>>> rant, the toughest email I had to write, but anyway you should ignore
>>> it:
>> 
>> I'd also point out, this isn't something that we dreamed up specifically
>> for CloudStack - we're following Apache practices here. It's worth
>> researching whether something is CloudStack-specific or an Apache
>> process before holding other folks feet to the fire about the way
>> they're doing things.
>> 
>> These are the Apache guidelines for voting on committers:
>> http://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
>> 
>> AFAIK, individual projects (and certainly not incubating projects) are
>> not free to disregard these practices.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> j...@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>> 
> 
> 
> Totally agreed about all Animesh's awesome contributions. But I have a
> "this is my first open-source project" question.
> 
> I searched Reviewboard and don't see any patches from Animesh. Why would
> someone who doesn't write code need to be a committer?
> 
> I read the Apache "committers" docs [1][2] and they mention a few
> "back-office" things committers can do, but they pretty much assume that
> writing code is the main reason to be a committer.
> 
> Again: totally agreed about Animesh's awesome contributions. Maybe Animesh
> has written tons of code for the project which I've overlooked, in which
> case I apologize. I'm still curious about what else committers can do.

We have voted and posted bylaws for the community:

https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/apache-cloudstack-project-bylaws.html

They define a contributor as:

"Contributors are all of the volunteers who are contributing time, code,
documentation, or resources to the CloudStack Project. Contributions are not
just code, but can be any combination of documentation, testing, user support,
code, code reviews, bug reporting, community organizing, project marketing, or
numerous other activities that help promote and improve the Apache CloudStack
project and community."

And explain that:

"A Contributor that makes sustained, welcome contributions to the project may be
invited to become a Committer by the PMC. The invitation will be at the
discretion of a supporting PMC member."

To summarize, it's not just code.

-Sebastien


> 
> [1] http://community.apache.org/committers/index.html
> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html
> 
> Jessica T.

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