On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 01:01 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> >> wrote: >> > This was not meant for cloudstack-dev....I'm sure I will get a ton of +1 >> > replies but please refrain from replying to this. >> >> While this is the first time a proposal was made public, I had to >> rant, the toughest email I had to write, but anyway you should ignore >> it: >> >> Should we have transparency on committer proposals and votes? It's > > No. When we have a discussion/vote about a committer, we should be able > to have a frank conversation about that person's contributions - which > may or may not be something an individual would want aired in a public > forum, and a public forum is not the best way to get honest feedback > about an individual. > > I don't have any problem publicly saying "I don't think your idea / > patch is good" but that's a far cry from saying - on a publicly archived > list, mind you - "Bob Q. Contributor is not someone I'd like to give > commit access to."
There were no personal remarks about anybody's abilities or skills in my email so I don't see why you're saying this, neither I'm blaming the PPMC or questioning the proposal. In fact I'm saying that there are folks whose contributions and skills may have been overlooked. > >> because I feel we're not proposing people based on pure merits. > > I think you're mistaking merits for metrics below. That's not to say no > one below has merit, but how many messages are sent to the mailing list > or the number of patches are not, strictly speaking, the only things > that we should look at. > > - Does a person submit a good patch that should have gone in > immediately, or does it require guidance before being put in? > - Are they following good community practices? > - Have they been doing this consistently over time? > So, these things may not be measurable, ppmc should be in a better position to do that. Okay so how does a non-ppmc member in this project propose for a committer? Regards. >> example, my git rank (git shortlog -sn) and ML participating tells me >> the following folks were participating since many months, they have >> good commits and their patches only fall behind due to their review >> not getting love on time: >> 21 Sateesh Chodapuneedi >> 20 Devdeep Singh >> 16 Sanjay Tripathi >> 14 James Martin >> 12 Gavin Lee > > Actually, Gavin is already a committer. > > Anyway - if you feel someone is deserving of committer status, and > you're not on the PPMC, I'd encourage you to speak up (privately) to > someone on the PPMC if you feel they're being overlooked. But discussing > specific individuals on -dev is unfair to those people and puts the PPMC > in a bad position. > > Best, > > jzb > -- > Joe Brockmeier > j...@zonker.net > Twitter: @jzb > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
