> -----Original Message----- > From: rohityada...@gmail.com [mailto:rohityada...@gmail.com] On Behalf > Of Rohit Yadav > Sent: vrijdag 22 februari 2013 12:24 > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Animesh Chaturvedi as a committer > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 01:01 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> > >> wrote: > >> > This was not meant for cloudstack-dev....I'm sure I will get a ton of +1 > replies but please refrain from replying to this. > >> > >> While this is the first time a proposal was made public, I had to > >> rant, the toughest email I had to write, but anyway you should ignore > >> it: > >> > >> Should we have transparency on committer proposals and votes? It's > > > > No. When we have a discussion/vote about a committer, we should be > > able to have a frank conversation about that person's contributions - > > which may or may not be something an individual would want aired in a > > public forum, and a public forum is not the best way to get honest > > feedback about an individual. > > > > I don't have any problem publicly saying "I don't think your idea / > > patch is good" but that's a far cry from saying - on a publicly > > archived list, mind you - "Bob Q. Contributor is not someone I'd like > > to give commit access to." > > There were no personal remarks about anybody's abilities or skills in my > email so I don't see why you're saying this, neither I'm blaming the PPMC or > questioning the proposal. > In fact I'm saying that there are folks whose contributions and skills may > have > been overlooked. > > > > >> because I feel we're not proposing people based on pure merits. > > > > I think you're mistaking merits for metrics below. That's not to say > > no one below has merit, but how many messages are sent to the mailing > > list or the number of patches are not, strictly speaking, the only > > things that we should look at. > > > > - Does a person submit a good patch that should have gone in > > immediately, or does it require guidance before being put in? > > - Are they following good community practices? > > - Have they been doing this consistently over time? > > > > So, these things may not be measurable, ppmc should be in a better position > to do that. > Okay so how does a non-ppmc member in this project propose for a > committer?
Send a mail to cloudstack-priv...@incubator.apache.org with whom you like to nominate and why. Or catch one of us on IRC, meetups or any other way like joe put in his email below. The main thing is that we want to discuss those things in private to ensure privacy for the individuals concerned. The internet has no delete button ;-) > > Regards. > > >> example, my git rank (git shortlog -sn) and ML participating tells me > >> the following folks were participating since many months, they have > >> good commits and their patches only fall behind due to their review > >> not getting love on time: > >> 21 Sateesh Chodapuneedi > >> 20 Devdeep Singh > >> 16 Sanjay Tripathi > >> 14 James Martin > >> 12 Gavin Lee > > > > Actually, Gavin is already a committer. > > > > Anyway - if you feel someone is deserving of committer status, and > > you're not on the PPMC, I'd encourage you to speak up (privately) to > > someone on the PPMC if you feel they're being overlooked. But > > discussing specific individuals on -dev is unfair to those people and > > puts the PPMC in a bad position. > > > > Best, > > > > jzb > > -- > > Joe Brockmeier > > j...@zonker.net > > Twitter: @jzb > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
